Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Chilli said:
Doesn't that depend on the shape of the object? Surely if the object was shaped like a wing it would have lift properties?
Yes. If it was stable and the right shape to generate lift. But if as proposed, the plane disintegrated, chances of the anything like that existing around the FDR I'd suggest are slim. So most likely it'll drop "like a stone" regardless of forward speed.

The poster seems to be working with the (very common) misconception that things fall faster as their horizontal speed drops. But the two are not connected at all, unless the object is generating lift like a wing does. But to do that you have to keep the wing stable etc. Which is unlikely if it's disintegrated.

However say the cockpit was chopped off, the rest of the plane could "fly" as a single piece into the ground/sea with the wings having some effect. Blow it up though and it turns into 1000 pieces mostly falling in a nice steady arch.

nick heppinstall

8,074 posts

280 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Testaburger said:
Idiot.

As mentioned, they're regarded as a much nicer airline to fly with than anything the UK has to offer. And a good safety record to boot.

Sadly, the prognosis doesn't look good for MH 370. Details a sketchy, but apparently Vietnamese Naval radar tracked them going down in to the sea..

No distress calls or emergency signals suggests something quite catastrophic whilst airborne.
Totally uncalled for. You are very lucky to be still contributing to this thread .....

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

154 months

Foppo

2,344 posts

124 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Testaburger said:
TeamD

You're right. You're the expert.

Be aware that the majority of he travelling populace disagrees with you.

It appears that it is you that is coming across as an opinionated tosser.
Opinionated tosser.>;) The English colourfull language.Very sad what ever happened no good way to die.Don't like airplanes never have good for quick transport that's about it.Ships for me but slow.

Foppo

2,344 posts

124 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Testaburger said:
TeamD

You're right. You're the expert.

Be aware that the majority of he travelling populace disagrees with you.

It appears that it is you that is coming across as an opinionated tosser.
Opinionated tosser.>;) The English colourfull language.Very sad what ever happened no good way to die.Don't like airplanes never have good for quick transport that's about it.Ships for me but slow.

jonny142

1,504 posts

225 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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The pilot had built a home flight sim too..3rd post down http://www.x-sim.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=...

Juanco20

3,214 posts

193 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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skyrover said:
Here's a quick bathymetric map of the area



The area it has gone down is quite shallow (in relative terms) and should not be difficult to locate

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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I fly with MAS most week, the food is awful, but they have never lost a plane in 40 years, their last accident was over 40years ago on a small domestic flight, at least that what CNN just said.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
Same aircraft with the wing-tip missing a few years ago.



There will be a lot of people with itchy bottoms for the next few weeks. frown
Are these wings glued on or is that the air bus or did I dream that?

I wonder how you would check the integrity of the bind after something like that,

TeamD

4,913 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Berw said:
I fly with MAS most week, the food is awful, but they have never lost a plane in 40 years, their last accident was over 40years ago on a small domestic flight, at least that what CNN just said.
I suppose it depends upon your definition of "lost" but the New Straits Times seems to maintain a list in expectation of unfortunate situations like this.

thehawk

9,335 posts

207 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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I've heard that there was a passenger travelling on this flight with a stolen Italian passport.

unrepentant

21,257 posts

256 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Testaburger said:
Ho ho ho.
Are you with Cathay Wendy? We have a friend who flies for them and he's HK based.

unrepentant

21,257 posts

256 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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CNN reporting that a Vietnamese plane has spotted debris of some kind in the water.

scarebus

858 posts

171 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Such a sadness that this forum has become as pathetic as Pprune....

Rest in peace to all those lost souls, I truly hope that this was not another silk air/Ethiopian disaster.

budgie smuggler

5,380 posts

159 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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unrepentant said:
CNN reporting that a Vietnamese plane has spotted debris of some kind in the water.
NYT reporting oil slick:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/world/asia/malay...

GreatPretender

26,140 posts

214 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Le TVR said:
Wouldn't be this one by any chance?

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=14...
yes

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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I'd be spending my initial time and effort looking for those data recorders.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
I'd be spending my initial time and effort looking for those data recorders.
I'll pass that tip onto the investigators thumbup

crmcatee

5,694 posts

227 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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They haven't annoyed the Russians have they ?

TeamD

4,913 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
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scarebus said:
Such a sadness that this forum has become as pathetic as Pprune....

Rest in peace to all those lost souls, I truly hope that this was not another silk air/Ethiopian disaster.
What a strange comment, I don't see anyone making light of the tragic loss of life but it's inevitable that folk would like to know what went wrong, unfortunately we're a bit light on hard info at the moment. I for one would be interested in knowing if this plane was the same one that had problems on 1st August 2005 and had to put into Perth,Australia rather sharpish.