Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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redtwin said:
None of those deaths were aircraft related though.
Mine were. They were all passengers who said they would rather starve than stump up a tenner for a Ryan Air ham bap.

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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redtwin said:
None of those deaths were aircraft related though. Dying in an aircraft incident carries more weight, that's why they are referred to "souls" and not "people" when on board.
Plus the fact they're educated, "wealthy", and have family and varied nationalities that have not forgotten about them, because they can't, whereas thousands of people dying of starvation in a far off African state isn't newsworthy anymore.

redtwin

7,518 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Ryan Air doesn't count as the simple process of booking a ticket is soul destroying.

redtwin

7,518 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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GTIR said:
Plus the fact they're educated, "wealthy", and have family and varied nationalities that have not forgotten about them, because they can't, whereas thousands of people dying of starvation in a far off African state isn't newsworthy anymore.
Are you suggesting the UK road deaths were dole scrounging thickos with relatives that suffer from Alzheimers?.

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

158 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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redtwin said:
Are you suggesting the UK road deaths were dole scrounging thickos with relatives that suffer from Alzheimers?.
We can only hope.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Oil slick that was spotted in the search area a few days back is not from MH370.

Petemate

1,674 posts

191 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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I know this has been gone into at length earlier, but I would not be surprised, given the complete lack of debris, to learn that the plane is nowhere near where they are searching; maybe it is after all on land somewhere.

MartG

20,680 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Petemate said:
I know this has been gone into at length earlier, but I would not be surprised, given the complete lack of debris, to learn that the plane is nowhere near where they are searching; maybe it is after all on land somewhere.
A high speed impact with the ocean would probably result in any debris being very small pieces, any floating bits of which would have been dispersed over a very wide area by the time they started searching in the location which it is now thought it went down.

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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redtwin said:
GTIR said:
Plus the fact they're educated, "wealthy", and have family and varied nationalities that have not forgotten about them, because they can't, whereas thousands of people dying of starvation in a far off African state isn't newsworthy anymore.
Are you suggesting the UK road deaths were dole scrounging thickos with relatives that suffer from Alzheimers?.
No.

BrabusMog

20,168 posts

186 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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MartG said:
A high speed impact with the ocean would probably result in any debris being very small pieces, any floating bits of which would have been dispersed over a very wide area by the time they started searching in the location which it is now thought it went down.
Would it not be giving off some kind of signal if it was still in one piece?

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

170 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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MartG said:
A high speed impact with the ocean would probably result in any debris being very small pieces, any floating bits of which would have been dispersed over a very wide area by the time they started searching in the location which it is now thought it went down.
given the search and the nations involved and the length of time since its disappearance I find it highly strange that not one piece of wreckage has been either washed up or discovered floating somewhere..

DoubleSix

11,715 posts

176 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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hedgefinder said:
given the search and the nations involved and the length of time since its disappearance I find it highly strange that not one piece of wreckage has been either washed up or discovered floating somewhere..
Then you simply haven't begun to comprehend the expanse of water involved.

Edited by DoubleSix on Thursday 17th April 12:01

Vaud

50,515 posts

155 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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hedgefinder said:
given the search and the nations involved and the length of time since its disappearance I find it highly strange that not one piece of wreckage has been either washed up or discovered floating somewhere..
It's a few tons [at best] of floating debris.
In something the size of the continental USA, that has been taken by currents for 4 weeks.
Much of the debris may be similar in colour to the sea.

MartG

20,680 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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hedgefinder said:
given the search and the nations involved and the length of time since its disappearance I find it highly strange that not one piece of wreckage has been either washed up or discovered floating somewhere..
When any debris that is still afloat ( probably stuff like foam seat cushions, insulation, possibly miscellaneous stuff from passengers luggage ) eventually washes up on a beach somewhere, there will be nothing to identify it as being from the plane or distinguish it from the usual crap that gets washed up on any beach around the world


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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MartG said:
A high speed impact with the ocean would probably result in any debris being very small pieces, any floating bits of which would have been dispersed over a very wide area by the time they started searching in the location which it is now thought it went down.
It's the big lumps which generally get found due to their recognisable shape and size. Two thumping great engines won't have strayed far from where they hit the water - also big lumps of undercarriage - perhaps a whole tail section, etc.

The ping locations define an area which, when searched comprehensively, will presumably reveal the answer.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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DoubleSix said:
hedgefinder said:
given the search and the nations involved and the length of time since its disappearance I find it highly strange that not one piece of wreckage has been either washed up or discovered floating somewhere..
Then you simply haven't begun to comprehend the expanse of water involved.

Edited by DoubleSix on Thursday 17th April 12:01
in 1992 28,000 rubber ducks fell off a containership

And so began one of the worlds wierder studies


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_Floatees

They are still turning up

Puggit

48,446 posts

248 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Just been on holiday for a week sans Internet - nothing happened then?

Pommygranite

14,258 posts

216 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Puggit said:
Just been on holiday for a week sans Internet - nothing happened then?
You could have been away for a month and nothings really happened.


woodypup59

614 posts

152 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Nothing has happened - except the pinger in the black boxes has probably run out of power.

Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Regetably for all the bereaved I cannot see any progress in the search for sometime. It is clearly very difficult the plane is very deep in the ocean if in fact much remains of the plane. It could well be months before there is any real change in the available evidence if not longer. Getting the black boxes could take a longtime and getting as much as possible of the plane if there is in fact much to find could reveal a lot about any possible fire, anoxia etc. But the reality is than any remains of the passengers will be disappearing pretty fast. I do wonder whether a truly detailed assessment of what happened will ever be possible. Sincere regrets to the bereaved because closure in a mystery is never easy.