Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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fido

16,805 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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V8LM said:
And no-one thought to evacuate the buildings in KL just in case another aircraft got through? coffee
Not that I'm agreeing with the theory but 15-20 minutes warning wouldn't be enough to evacuate KL.

gowmonster

2,471 posts

168 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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fido said:
V8LM said:
And no-one thought to evacuate the buildings in KL just in case another aircraft got through? coffee
Not that I'm agreeing with the theory but 15-20 minutes warning wouldn't be enough to evacuate KL.
But it would have at least been publicised and the media would have been told perhaps? unless the authorities decided it wasn't enough time so don't bother?

I don't see how a hostile takeover or rogue pilots would then be convinced to land somewhere unless they wanted to. it would have appeared on radar at least.

history shows, that crashes at sea sometimes don't get found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_f...

it took 2 years for them to get the air france one and thats when they new where to look!

Rollcage

11,327 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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matchmaker said:
My take on it (FWIW) is that there are only two options:

1) THEY know where it is and are suppressing this for some reason or

2) NOBODY has a fking clue where it is biggrin
I'd pretty much agree with this, and I'm leaning towards option 2.

In this day of instant information and answers to everything, it has become difficult to believe that something can disappear so comprehensively without a trace, but I really don't see it as much more complicated than that.

IMO, it's entirely possible it will never be found, because it's now a long way down and we don't have an accurate idea to within about 1000 miles or so where it hit the sea.

Vipers

32,896 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Rollcage said:
matchmaker said:
My take on it (FWIW) is that there are only two options:

1) THEY know where it is and are suppressing this for some reason or

2) NOBODY has a fking clue where it is biggrin
I'd pretty much agree with this, and I'm leaning towards option 2.

In this day of instant information and answers to everything, it has become difficult to believe that something can disappear so comprehensively without a trace, but I really don't see it as much more complicated than that.

IMO, it's entirely possible it will never be found, because it's now a long way down and we don't have an accurate idea to within about 1000 miles or so where it hit the sea.
I would add, taking into account I can't find it on google, therefore it doesn't exist, so there wobble




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ATTAK Z

11,126 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Mike215 said:
I will tell you what happened to the plane. It was deliberately blown up to prevent its two MUSLIM PILOTS from making a suicide run on Petronas Twin Towers in downtown Kuala Lumpur. How did the the authorities know it was a suicide run? Because the Muslim pilots were following the actions of the four Muslim pilots in the 911 attacks: first, cut off all verbal communication; two, disable the tracking electronics; and three, change course without permission Once they changed course the authorities had only 20 or so minutes before the plane would hit the towers so they had to act fast and blow it up. The wreckage was probably collected as soon as possible.
These stories that the plane flew for thousands of miles with everybody dead was fiction just as the stories now that it landed somewhere. It cannot be admitted that the plane was deliberately destroyed.
I really think this is a plausible and believable scenario ... can anyone explain why this could NOT have happened ?

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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ATTAK Z said:
Mike215 said:
I will tell you what happened to the plane. It was deliberately blown up to prevent its two MUSLIM PILOTS from making a suicide run on Petronas Twin Towers in downtown Kuala Lumpur. How did the the authorities know it was a suicide run? Because the Muslim pilots were following the actions of the four Muslim pilots in the 911 attacks: first, cut off all verbal communication; two, disable the tracking electronics; and three, change course without permission Once they changed course the authorities had only 20 or so minutes before the plane would hit the towers so they had to act fast and blow it up. The wreckage was probably collected as soon as possible.
These stories that the plane flew for thousands of miles with everybody dead was fiction just as the stories now that it landed somewhere. It cannot be admitted that the plane was deliberately destroyed.
I really think this is a plausible and believable scenario ... can anyone explain why this could NOT have happened ?
ATTAK Z any provenance for this post? Please??

lord trumpton

7,406 posts

127 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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ATTAK Z said:
Mike215 said:
I will tell you what happened to the plane. It was deliberately blown up to prevent its two MUSLIM PILOTS from making a suicide run on Petronas Twin Towers in downtown Kuala Lumpur. How did the the authorities know it was a suicide run? Because the Muslim pilots were following the actions of the four Muslim pilots in the 911 attacks: first, cut off all verbal communication; two, disable the tracking electronics; and three, change course without permission Once they changed course the authorities had only 20 or so minutes before the plane would hit the towers so they had to act fast and blow it up. The wreckage was probably collected as soon as possible.
These stories that the plane flew for thousands of miles with everybody dead was fiction just as the stories now that it landed somewhere. It cannot be admitted that the plane was deliberately destroyed.
I really think this is a plausible and believable scenario ... can anyone explain why this could NOT have happened ?
Ive already aired my view that it was shot down earlier in the thread.

I'll go along with the above too; sound very plausible unfortunately

lamboman100

1,445 posts

122 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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ATTAK Z said:
Mike215 said:
I will tell you what happened to the plane. It was deliberately blown up to prevent its two MUSLIM PILOTS from making a suicide run on Petronas Twin Towers in downtown Kuala Lumpur. How did the the authorities know it was a suicide run? Because the Muslim pilots were following the actions of the four Muslim pilots in the 911 attacks: first, cut off all verbal communication; two, disable the tracking electronics; and three, change course without permission Once they changed course the authorities had only 20 or so minutes before the plane would hit the towers so they had to act fast and blow it up. The wreckage was probably collected as soon as possible.
These stories that the plane flew for thousands of miles with everybody dead was fiction just as the stories now that it landed somewhere. It cannot be admitted that the plane was deliberately destroyed.
I really think this is a plausible and believable scenario ... can anyone explain why this could NOT have happened ?
There are Chinese radar and British satellite traces showing the plane flying back towards Malaysia, away from Malaysia, and then ending in the middle of the Indian Ocean. It is a big sea with a small plane in it, which will take time to find. Don't forget, people lose money down the back of their sofa at home and never find it.

ATTAK Z

11,126 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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lamboman100 said:
ATTAK Z said:
Mike215 said:
I will tell you what happened to the plane. It was deliberately blown up to prevent its two MUSLIM PILOTS from making a suicide run on Petronas Twin Towers in downtown Kuala Lumpur. How did the the authorities know it was a suicide run? Because the Muslim pilots were following the actions of the four Muslim pilots in the 911 attacks: first, cut off all verbal communication; two, disable the tracking electronics; and three, change course without permission Once they changed course the authorities had only 20 or so minutes before the plane would hit the towers so they had to act fast and blow it up. The wreckage was probably collected as soon as possible.
These stories that the plane flew for thousands of miles with everybody dead was fiction just as the stories now that it landed somewhere. It cannot be admitted that the plane was deliberately destroyed.
I really think this is a plausible and believable scenario ... can anyone explain why this could NOT have happened ?
There are Chinese radar and British satellite traces showing the plane flying back towards Malaysia, away from Malaysia, and then ending in the middle of the Indian Ocean. It is a big sea with a small plane in it, which will take time to find. Don't forget, people lose money down the back of their sofa at home and never find it.
Well Lamboman, your response begs the question 'do you really believe the information issued (well after the disappearance) by any government's secret radar ?'

Pommygranite

14,264 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Why would they crash it in to an empty building at 2.30am?


Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Pommygranite said:
Why would they crash it in to an empty building at 2.30am?
Good point. I am hoping for some provenance.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Pommygranite said:
Why would they crash it in to an empty building at 2.30am?
The World Trade Centres were hit an hour to early. Perhaps MUSLIM terrorists are st with time?

rich1231

17,331 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Steffan said:
Good point. I am hoping for some provenance.
You won't get it as it's been posted by a tard.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

149 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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ATTAK Z said:
Mike215 said:
I will tell you what happened to the plane. It was deliberately blown up to prevent its two MUSLIM PILOTS from making a suicide run on Petronas Twin Towers in downtown Kuala Lumpur. How did the the authorities know it was a suicide run? Because the Muslim pilots were following the actions of the four Muslim pilots in the 911 attacks: first, cut off all verbal communication; two, disable the tracking electronics; and three, change course without permission Once they changed course the authorities had only 20 or so minutes before the plane would hit the towers so they had to act fast and blow it up. The wreckage was probably collected as soon as possible.
These stories that the plane flew for thousands of miles with everybody dead was fiction just as the stories now that it landed somewhere. It cannot be admitted that the plane was deliberately destroyed.
I really think this is a plausible and believable scenario ... can anyone explain why this could NOT have happened ?
I have nothing better to believe but... would that not be a fking big mess to clear up and very quickly? without anyone seeing anything?

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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BFG TERRANO said:
ATTAK Z said:
Mike215 said:
I will tell you what happened to the plane. It was deliberately blown up to prevent its two MUSLIM PILOTS from making a suicide run on Petronas Twin Towers in downtown Kuala Lumpur. How did the the authorities know it was a suicide run? Because the Muslim pilots were following the actions of the four Muslim pilots in the 911 attacks: first, cut off all verbal communication; two, disable the tracking electronics; and three, change course without permission Once they changed course the authorities had only 20 or so minutes before the plane would hit the towers so they had to act fast and blow it up. The wreckage was probably collected as soon as possible.
These stories that the plane flew for thousands of miles with everybody dead was fiction just as the stories now that it landed somewhere. It cannot be admitted that the plane was deliberately destroyed.
I really think this is a plausible and believable scenario ... can anyone explain why this could NOT have happened ?
I have nothing better to believe but... would that not be a fking big mess to clear up and very quickly? without anyone seeing anything?
Not if it blew up over the sea. If a serious missile was used it could literally blow into smithereens. Over the water would there be much left? I am not an aeronautics aficionado but I would think it is possible. But as yet this is speculation thus far there is no provenance at all and the suggestions are not looking favourable. Who knows?

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

149 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Steffan said:
BFG TERRANO said:
ATTAK Z said:
Mike215 said:
I will tell you what happened to the plane. It was deliberately blown up to prevent its two MUSLIM PILOTS from making a suicide run on Petronas Twin Towers in downtown Kuala Lumpur. How did the the authorities know it was a suicide run? Because the Muslim pilots were following the actions of the four Muslim pilots in the 911 attacks: first, cut off all verbal communication; two, disable the tracking electronics; and three, change course without permission Once they changed course the authorities had only 20 or so minutes before the plane would hit the towers so they had to act fast and blow it up. The wreckage was probably collected as soon as possible.
These stories that the plane flew for thousands of miles with everybody dead was fiction just as the stories now that it landed somewhere. It cannot be admitted that the plane was deliberately destroyed.
I really think this is a plausible and believable scenario ... can anyone explain why this could NOT have happened ?
I have nothing better to believe but... would that not be a fking big mess to clear up and very quickly? without anyone seeing anything?
Not if it blew up over the sea. If a serious missile was used it could literally blow into smithereens. Over the water would there be much left? I am not an aeronautics aficionado but I would think it is possible. But as yet this is speculation thus far there is no provenance at all and the suggestions are not looking favourable. Who knows?
Agree to a point... I know its a little plane (possibly) in a big ocean but im surprised nothing has been found floating that is linked to the aircraft. Seats, Luggage, paperwork for example? Surely something would survive afloat?

Don't know what to believe!!

Beyond Rational

3,524 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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The answer is that you don't comprehend how large the ocean is, nor how few people there are on it to witness debris.

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Beyond Rational said:
The answer is that you don't comprehend how large the ocean is, nor how few people there are on it to witness debris.
That may be your answer and you may be happy with it. Time will tell.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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any in-air explosion would be visible on american/russian/chinese early warning systems, I don't think they all would do malaysian government a favor and cover it up...

also if it was shot down around malaysia someone would have found it by now, those waters are VERY busy and the possibility of aircraft explosion and noone witnessing it is second to none

Rollcage

11,327 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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The reason the shooting down idea is total bks is simple - since 9\11, why on earth would they need to cover it up? It would be the only logical thing to do, and if it had happened, it would be virtually impossible to cover up in any case. Too many people would know.