Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"
Discussion
dvs_dave said:
I heard that NASA et al are involved in the search for the plane in a low Earth orbit. There was a suggestion earlier in this thread that it could have ascended into space, and now it's stuck in orbit with no means of re-entry. Seems an entirely plausible scenario to me.
No way in hell... sorryskyrover said:
dvs_dave said:
I heard that NASA et al are involved in the search for the plane in a low Earth orbit. There was a suggestion earlier in this thread that it could have ascended into space, and now it's stuck in orbit with no means of re-entry. Seems an entirely plausible scenario to me.
No way in hell... sorry
skyrover said:
dvs_dave said:
I heard that NASA et al are involved in the search for the plane in a low Earth orbit. There was a suggestion earlier in this thread that it could have ascended into space, and now it's stuck in orbit with no means of re-entry. Seems an entirely plausible scenario to me.
No way in hell... sorry
AdeTuono said:
skyrover said:
dvs_dave said:
I heard that NASA et al are involved in the search for the plane in a low Earth orbit. There was a suggestion earlier in this thread that it could have ascended into space, and now it's stuck in orbit with no means of re-entry. Seems an entirely plausible scenario to me.
No way in hell... sorry
M4cruiser said:
To Attak z, ade Tuono et al, et al,
May I remind you that over 200 innocent people are missing / presumed dead / possibly dead / probably dead / dead (depending on what you believe) and yet you think it's right to make jokes and take the p??
This has been a farce from day one from the press and social media. The theories out there are absolutely bonkers, go look on a certain ex footballers and son of gods web site for example, the stupid is in overdrive. I would suggest that the people having a dig are not doing at the peoples that are lost expense. Rather the gullibility and inventiveness of the google experts.May I remind you that over 200 innocent people are missing / presumed dead / possibly dead / probably dead / dead (depending on what you believe) and yet you think it's right to make jokes and take the p??
M4cruiser said:
To Attak z, ade Tuono et al, et al,
May I remind you that over 200 innocent people are missing / presumed dead / possibly dead / probably dead / dead (depending on what you believe) and yet you think it's right to make jokes and take the p??
I think you're about ready for the parrot ... FYI we are mocking the idiots who can't understand basic maths, don't listen to, and therefore cannot understand, expert opinion and who are (generally) dullards that have nothing better to do than become keyboard warriors to tell the world how thick they are !!!May I remind you that over 200 innocent people are missing / presumed dead / possibly dead / probably dead / dead (depending on what you believe) and yet you think it's right to make jokes and take the p??
HTH
Oh and please have the decency to spell my forum name correctly ...
M4cruiser said:
To Attak z, ade Tuono et al, et al,
May I remind you that over 200 innocent people are missing / presumed dead / possibly dead / probably dead / dead (depending on what you believe) and yet you think it's right to make jokes and take the p??
Given your previous thread (I notice your ridiculous opening post has been deleted), and your seemingly naive comments on this one, I hardly think you are in a position to pass judgement, do you?May I remind you that over 200 innocent people are missing / presumed dead / possibly dead / probably dead / dead (depending on what you believe) and yet you think it's right to make jokes and take the p??
GSE said:
Good one, tks for the heads up, sky box set to record.M4cruiser said:
Does anyone have any idea how fast the thing would need to be going to maintain an orbit? It simply isn't possible with "ordinary" jet engines.
Try Googling the space station, see how high it is (230 miles) and how fast it's going (17,000mph).
A 777 runs out of puff at about 8 miles high and 500mph.
Is it not possible that in conjunction with a high speed jet stream tail wind it got itself into a transitional orbit velocity, and then inadvertantly managed to slingshot around the earth sufficient for its speed to increase to full escape velocity? Given the altitude it would have ended up at, any aerodynamic control would have been ineffective due to the air being so thin, so the pilot wouldn't have been able to point the nose down and descend like he was perhaps used to.Try Googling the space station, see how high it is (230 miles) and how fast it's going (17,000mph).
A 777 runs out of puff at about 8 miles high and 500mph.
I would certainly be interested in any evidence to categorically debunk this notion.
dvs_dave said:
M4cruiser said:
Does anyone have any idea how fast the thing would need to be going to maintain an orbit? It simply isn't possible with "ordinary" jet engines.
Try Googling the space station, see how high it is (230 miles) and how fast it's going (17,000mph).
A 777 runs out of puff at about 8 miles high and 500mph.
Is it not possible that in conjunction with a high speed jet stream tail wind it got itself into a transitional orbit velocity, and then inadvertantly managed to slingshot around the earth sufficient for its speed to increase to full escape velocity? Given the altitude it would have ended up at, any aerodynamic control would have been ineffective due to the air being so thin, so the pilot wouldn't have been able to point the nose down and descend like he was perhaps used to.Try Googling the space station, see how high it is (230 miles) and how fast it's going (17,000mph).
A 777 runs out of puff at about 8 miles high and 500mph.
I would certainly be interested in any evidence to categorically debunk this notion.
Awesome...a 777 can get close to 'transient orbit velocity' (whatever that is meant to be). Why did we bother with Concorde for all those years? Shirley as it was over twice as fast, and lots higher than a 777 is MUST have been in full orbit?
I think I can see it all now... 9-11 was ACTUALLY a plot by Boeing & Nasa to get Concorde grounded, therefore removing the competitor to their new generation of 'low cost' orbital entry craft.
I think I can see it all now... 9-11 was ACTUALLY a plot by Boeing & Nasa to get Concorde grounded, therefore removing the competitor to their new generation of 'low cost' orbital entry craft.
dvs_dave said:
M4cruiser said:
Does anyone have any idea how fast the thing would need to be going to maintain an orbit? It simply isn't possible with "ordinary" jet engines.
Try Googling the space station, see how high it is (230 miles) and how fast it's going (17,000mph).
A 777 runs out of puff at about 8 miles high and 500mph.
Is it not possible that in conjunction with a high speed jet stream tail wind it got itself into a transitional orbit velocity, and then inadvertantly managed to slingshot around the earth sufficient for its speed to increase to full escape velocity? Given the altitude it would have ended up at, any aerodynamic control would have been ineffective due to the air being so thin, so the pilot wouldn't have been able to point the nose down and descend like he was perhaps used to.Try Googling the space station, see how high it is (230 miles) and how fast it's going (17,000mph).
A 777 runs out of puff at about 8 miles high and 500mph.
I would certainly be interested in any evidence to categorically debunk this notion.
dvs_dave said:
Is it not possible that in conjunction with a high speed jet stream tail wind it got itself into a transitional orbit velocity, and then inadvertantly managed to slingshot around the earth sufficient for its speed to increase to full escape velocity? Given the altitude it would have ended up at, any aerodynamic control would have been ineffective due to the air being so thin, so the pilot wouldn't have been able to point the nose down and descend like he was perhaps used to.
I would certainly be interested in any evidence to categorically debunk this notion.
Gravity for starters. To go into orbit you need to fall and not hit the earth again. 17,000 odd mph usually does it. Don't think a gust of wind would do that in the right direction. Even IF it could do it up wards, then there is Delta V to consider.I would certainly be interested in any evidence to categorically debunk this notion.
I would certainly love to see the method to do this.
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