Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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TheSnitch

2,342 posts

155 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
TheSnitch said:
Yes, I know about those.

So no verified accounts, then? It can't have been where those 'witnesses' claim to have seen a plane and also where the inmarsat data places it, and I feel the inmarsat data is more compelling
Well if that's the case the authorities only have to go and verify them don't they, this isn't rocket science is it....have they even bothered ?
That wouldn't really put them any further forward, would it? They could verify that the people in question claimed to have seen a plane. It wouldn't verify the identity. These 'sightings' have been well publicised; I can't see any reason for the authorities to ignore them if it was felt they were relevant.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

219 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
This is what it takes to make something that can escape Earth's gravity.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-cv_JJOxGI

This is what it would take to get a 777 into space.It's just that it would be going a lot further than the moon.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiAVyMDWT4
On the other hand, this would give the 777 the ability to cloak as it's using Romulan technology, so could be hovering over our heads and we'd be none the wiser.

Quite clearly the answer is to get the US to recommission the USS Enterprise, get it into orbit with William and Leonard commanding the ship and search for the 777 from there.

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

155 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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MarkRSi said:
XJ Flyer said:
This is what it takes to make something that can escape Earth's gravity.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-cv_JJOxGI

This is what it would take to get a 777 into space.It's just that it would be going a lot further than the moon.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiAVyMDWT4
On the other hand, this would give the 777 the ability to cloak as it's using Romulan technology, so could be hovering over our heads and we'd be none the wiser.

Quite clearly the answer is to get the US to recommission the USS Enterprise, get it into orbit with William and Leonard commanding the ship and search for the 777 from there.
Now you are just being contrary. Everyone knows NASA have that technology, they got it from the Klingons that crashed in Area 51

Anyway,I'm not going out there, it's full of the Borg

dvs_dave

8,642 posts

226 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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jmorgan said:
That parrot is engorged, it is going to explode into a multitude of parrots.
Seems like it did a while ago. By now you might even find a few in a low earth orbit.

It's been fun... smile

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Toasted on re entry, so what altitude do we get the bird just right without being a cinder

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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There's a new rumour that Kim Jong un found it and ate it...

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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TheSnitch said:
Yes, I know about those.

So no verified accounts, then? It can't have been where those 'witnesses' claim to have seen a plane and also where the inmarsat data places it, and I feel the inmarsat data is more compelling
I haven't seen these videos but there were witnesses from Malaysia, and according to Inmarsat pings the plane overflew malaysian mainland so it does add up

I don't know what type of verification you need? They are just an ordinary people.

Megaflow

9,438 posts

226 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
There's a new rumour that Kim Jong un found it and ate it...
I shouldn't laugh, but

hehe

Loser cruiser ticket straight to hell please...

Campo

10,869 posts

198 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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KTF said:
Now here comes the decomp theory. Had there been a decompression, the cockpit would have lit up like a Christmas tree.

The example they are quoting was not the same as MH370. The crew saw the alarms but ignored them.
Not ignored, misinterpreted. Sadly the Engineer on the ground in Maintenance control recognised the noise and suggested they check the switch for the outflow valve switch but the skipper was already hypoxic and not thinking clearly.

I find it heart breaking every time I hear that Helios story, whats even more tragic is the Greek courts treatment of the Engineer involved in the pressurisation checks before the flight. The flight attendant was so close to being able to do something but sadly never happened.

Anyway, back to MH370. For a change I actually found that to be an excellent non-sensational documentary. Really nailed explaining how Inmarsat came to narrow the search area in laymans terms.

Still holding out hope they will find it.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/june/mr...

Media Release
18 June 2014

The Australian contracted survey vessel Fugro Equator has commenced operations in a defined search area, joining Chinese PLA-Navy ship Zhu Kezhen in undertaking survey activities.

Under the direction of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), the two vessels are conducting the bathymetric survey—or mapping of the sea floor—which is crucial to carrying out the deep water search for MH370 that is scheduled to commence in August.

At the end of May, Zhu Kezhen suffered a defect to its multibeam echosounder and came into the port of Fremantle to enable the necessary repairs to be conducted.

The defect has been rectified and the ship will resume operations in the search area shortly.

So far, the Zhu Kezhen has surveyed 4,088 square kilometres of the ocean floor.

It is anticipated that it will take at least three months to complete the bathymetric survey of the 60,000 square kilometre search zone.

The ships will regularly send survey data to the ATSB and Geoscience Australia. This data will be used to progressively build a map of the search area.

The search area will be confirmed before the end of June, after completion of extensive collaborative analysis by a range of specialists.

It is already clear from the provisional results of that analysis that the search zone will move, but still be on the seventh arc (where the aircraft last communicated with satellite).

creampuff

6,511 posts

144 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Mojocvh said:
http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/june/mr...

Media Release
18 June 2014

The Australian contracted survey vessel Fugro Equator has commenced operations in a defined search area, joining Chinese PLA-Navy ship Zhu Kezhen in undertaking survey activities.
I'd put a lot more faith in whatever Fugro come up with compared to anything the Chinese come up with. I wonder if AMSA secretly wish the Chinese would ps off as anything they survey may need to be surveyed again properly, which could be diplomatically awkward.

(Companies I've worked for have contracted Fugro before. I've also worked for a state owned Chinese company before. There is a reason why I said what I wrote above.)

AdeTuono

7,258 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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I just hope the Chinese & Australian authorities are reading this thread. There are a couple of posters on here who definitely know where the plane is.

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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AdeTuono said:
I just hope the Chinese & Australian authorities are reading this thread. There are a couple of posters on here who definitely know where the plane is.
I am having difficulty understanding that comment. I wonder if you could expand on the comment, please. Thank you.

M4cruiser

3,654 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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GALLARDOGUY said:
How are TV production company in the UK going to know more than than the search teams in the actual region?
Could happen .. just look at the number of experts on PH who know more than the search teams ....

But

What seriously concerns me now is there's still not one shred of confirmed debris, after three and a half months. I know the sea is big, and I know that one piece of debris still isn't the same as the location of the flight recorder, but ... so much discussion in the preceding 300 pages of how a controlled landing on sea was impossible, meaning there would definitely be some (plastic?) floating debris ...

confused


Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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How long do bits of plane say afloat ?

If it was a nose dive surely there would be no wreckage on the surface or so minimal to make it impossible to find

Super Slo Mo

5,368 posts

199 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Why do you think there'd be no wreckage on the surface from a nose dive?

I'd have thought the plane would be in far more tiny pieces from a nose first impact compared to a flattish crash.

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Welshbeef said:
How long do bits of plane say afloat ?

If it was a nose dive surely there would be no wreckage on the surface or so minimal to make it impossible to find
Have you ever done a belly flop into a pool? It hurts, water is hard.
If it nosedived in, there would be millions of little pieces floating on the water for ever more!

MartG

20,691 posts

205 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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M4cruiser said:
What seriously concerns me now is there's still not one shred of confirmed debris, after three and a half months. I know the sea is big, and I know that one piece of debris still isn't the same as the location of the flight recorder, but ... so much discussion in the preceding 300 pages of how a controlled landing on sea was impossible, meaning there would definitely be some (plastic?) floating debris ...

confused
Some may have already drifted ashore, but there's nothing to identify any particular bit of foam or plastic washed up on a beach as coming from the aircraft

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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3 months and nothing spotted...strange

huge area certainly, but many satellites looking there and still nothing

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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What can satellites see? And would they re direct spy sats for this?