Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

[Mr GrimNasty]

AreOut said:

no, the plane is along the 7th arc which is too far from Maldives, who knows what they saw there (if they say anything)

OK, just a mass hallucination then!

[Steffan]

Martin4x4 said:

Steffan said:

From the start the Malaysians have been less than forthright in confirming the details that they presumably must know by now?

I have some experience of Malaysians and found them to be generally very dishonest.

What matter to them more than anything is appearances, they will lie to your face and deny having done something when you both know they have. They never admit anything that will make themselves look bad in any way and will tie themselves in knots to cover up anything that appears bad.

This is what you are seeing in this situtation.

I appreciate your comments. In circumstances such as these where hundreds of innocent passengers have lost their lives one would hope honesty would be the automatic approach. Clearly not in this case.

[AreOut]

Mr GrimNasty said:

OK, just a mass hallucination then!

noone from that mass had a simple smartphone to take the picture/video of the plane that shouldn't be there?

in reality couple of people probably saw some plane that wasn't MH370, that's all

[TheSnitch]

AreOut said:

the thing is if you had put 1000 pieces of anything in current search area and 1000 of those some 1000 miles to the north, tough chance that any would wash ashore on Reunion Island from the current search area while hundreds of those would from the northern area (after given amount of time)

As I have already said, the location is within the projected area for debris to wash up, and you cannot determine anything significant based on a single find, other than confirmation that the plane ended up in the water

[motomk]

http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s4259...

[TheSnitch]

motomk said:

http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s4259...

Thank you very much for that.

I think it goes to show there is often a simple explanation

[Martin4x4]

Steffan said:

I appreciate your comments. In circumstances such as these where hundreds of innocent passengers have lost their lives one would hope honesty would be the automatic approach. Clearly not in this case.

I too would hope so, but I don't think that would be the case.

The magnitude of the situation, results in a big loss of face, likely increasing the vehemence.

This is also why I'm highly sceptical of the Malaysian Military Radar data, which appeared sometime after the international media were incredulous about early reports of the inability to track planes accuratly.

Edited by Martin4x4 on Sunday 16th August 12:35

[davepoth]

I think it's telling that there were so many Chinese people aboard the plane. Looking at the Tianjin explosion, Beijing's attitude of "everything's fine" even though there was a cyanide cloud above the site seems to have rubbed off on the Malaysians in this case.

[AreOut]

motomk said:

http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s4259...

good debunk

[hidetheelephants]

Martin4x4 said:

This is also why I'm highly sceptical of the Malaysian Military Radar data, which appeared sometime after the international media were incredulous about early reports of the inability to track planes accuratly.

It's entirely normal behaviour for military organisations to be incredibly shy about revealing how good(or bad) their radar coverage and tracking ability is. This information is kept secret for sensible reasons.

[Axionknight]

TheSnitch said:

motomk said:

http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s4259...

Thank you very much for that.

I think it goes to show there is often a simple explanation

Sounds like the chap in question just wanted a free holiday to the Maldives

[TTmonkey]

AreOut said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

OK, just a mass hallucination then!

noone from that mass had a simple smartphone to take the picture/video of the plane that shouldn't be there?

in reality couple of people probably saw some plane that wasn't MH370, that's all

I thought it was a bunch of simple fisher folk on some out lying islands that reported seeing the Plane? I doubt if they have much use for smart phones.

[2013BRM]

TTmonkey said:

AreOut said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

OK, just a mass hallucination then!

noone from that mass had a simple smartphone to take the picture/video of the plane that shouldn't be there?

in reality couple of people probably saw some plane that wasn't MH370, that's all

I thought it was a bunch of simple fisher folk on some out lying islands that reported seeing the Plane? I doubt if they have much use for smart phones.

and would they have the time to whip out a phone, select the camera and get off a shot of a low flying plane? I've tried doing that at Duxford and got a distant smudge if I was lucky

[motomk]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-04/france-says-...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34145127

[KTF]

motomk said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-04/france-says-...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34145127

That isn't really 'news' as it was almost certain to belong to it.

[Composite Guru]

motomk said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-04/france-says-...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34145127

No sh!t Sherlock!! They have taken all that time to say that!!

[Vaud]

As I understand it the single expert that could 100% verify was on holiday... hence the delay.

[Eric Mc]

It was almost always going to be from the aircraft - but it always takes time to confirm these things.

[Frik]

Especially in August.

[s3fella]

Frik said:

Especially in August.

In France....