Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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M4cruiser

3,640 posts

150 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
Normal route blue, their route red (it might have been straighter than I've drawn it).

Am I right, with the curvature of the earth would there wouldn't be much difference in distance?

The curvature of the earth means that the shortest (great circle) route is the southerly one in the southern hemisphere, whereas in the northern hemisphere on a similar journey the shortest route would be the northerly curve.
If possible the airlines will use the shortest route, to save time and fuel, but there are loads of reasons why they could choose a different one.


200bhp

5,663 posts

219 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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They've found something:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/30562530/mh370...

(It's a ship wreck)

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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200bhp said:
They've found something:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/30562530/mh370...

(It's a ship wreck)
Or MH370 disguised as a shipwreck.

Just sayin.

Vaud

50,496 posts

155 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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AreOut, did you ever hear back from the investigators from the theory that you submitted?

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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I know the expense is colossal, but part of me really appreciates (and wants it to continue) the learning about what actually is down there, regardless of whether or not they find the plane.

Vaud

50,496 posts

155 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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skyrover said:
I know the expense is colossal, but part of me really appreciates (and wants it to continue) the learning about what actually is down there, regardless of whether or not they find the plane.
Agreed. We know more about space than the details of the oceans.

Upside of the space race was all of the aspiration it brought with it... And subsequent investment...even now.

.. But at the cost of understanding our own watery planet.

AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Vaud said:
AreOut, did you ever hear back from the investigators from the theory that you submitted?
no, but they are about to start the search in that area wink

IG (Independent Group, the people australian officials cooperate with) that ferociously defended current search area has practically admitted the mistake and announced going to the north(well, finally).

Bibbs

3,733 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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200bhp said:
They've found something:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/30562530/mh370...

(It's a ship wreck)
The image (if that's actually it) is pretty impressive in the detail.

200bhp

5,663 posts

219 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Bibbs said:
The image (if that's actually it) is pretty impressive in the detail.
Its from an ROV not the towed sonar thing or the boat itself so I think it's believable.


jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Vaud said:
skyrover said:
I know the expense is colossal, but part of me really appreciates (and wants it to continue) the learning about what actually is down there, regardless of whether or not they find the plane.
Agreed. We know more about space than the details of the oceans.

Upside of the space race was all of the aspiration it brought with it... And subsequent investment...even now.

.. But at the cost of understanding our own watery planet.
http://www.utc.no/

http://www.subseaexpo.com/

HTH!

Megaflow

9,417 posts

225 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Lets assume for a minute that they find the MH370 wreckage and the data recorders, and from that somehow find that this is 100% Boeing's fault, through a design flaw, manufacturing error or what ever.

Do Boeing then have to pick up the whole tab for the search effort?

Surely the bill will be big enough to finish any company off by the end.

AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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search has costed ~$150M thus far, it wouldn't harm company whose net income is $5B a year

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Megaflow said:
Lets assume for a minute that they find the MH370 wreckage and the data recorders, and from that somehow find that this is 100% Boeing's fault, through a design flaw, manufacturing error or what ever.

Do Boeing then have to pick up the whole tab for the search effort?

Surely the bill will be big enough to finish any company off by the end.
I'd be surprised as I thought it was an Airbus?

FourWheelDrift

88,521 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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A shipwreck, found on the sea floor, imagine that.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Hooli said:
Megaflow said:
Lets assume for a minute that they find the MH370 wreckage and the data recorders, and from that somehow find that this is 100% Boeing's fault, through a design flaw, manufacturing error or what ever.

Do Boeing then have to pick up the whole tab for the search effort?

Surely the bill will be big enough to finish any company off by the end.
I'd be surprised as I thought it was an Airbus?
You thought wrong. It was a Boeing 777.

Tasmindevil

901 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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200bhp said:
Bibbs said:
The image (if that's actually it) is pretty impressive in the detail.
Its from an ROV not the towed sonar thing or the boat itself so I think it's believable.
AUV, autonomous underwater vehicle so chuck it in the water and off it goes on a preprogrammed path so it is not tethered to a ship or remotely operated. The image is a high res sonar image, impressive image to say the least, some of our WROVs are used in munitions recovery and due to zero visibility they use a sonar camera, the image is so good you can zoom in and read the serial numbers of the shell casings.

budgie smuggler

5,385 posts

159 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Tasmindevil said:
AUV, autonomous underwater vehicle so chuck it in the water and off it goes on a preprogrammed path so it is not tethered to a ship or remotely operated. The image is a high res sonar image, impressive image to say the least, some of our WROVs are used in munitions recovery and due to zero visibility they use a sonar camera, the image is so good you can zoom in and read the serial numbers of the shell casings.
eek Sounds like a seriously impressive bit of kit.


jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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budgie smuggler said:
Tasmindevil said:
AUV, autonomous underwater vehicle so chuck it in the water and off it goes on a preprogrammed path so it is not tethered to a ship or remotely operated. The image is a high res sonar image, impressive image to say the least, some of our WROVs are used in munitions recovery and due to zero visibility they use a sonar camera, the image is so good you can zoom in and read the serial numbers of the shell casings.
eek Sounds like a seriously impressive bit of kit.
When they work. Sometimes.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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will the flight data recorders still be of any use?

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Europa1 said:
Hooli said:
Megaflow said:
Lets assume for a minute that they find the MH370 wreckage and the data recorders, and from that somehow find that this is 100% Boeing's fault, through a design flaw, manufacturing error or what ever.

Do Boeing then have to pick up the whole tab for the search effort?

Surely the bill will be big enough to finish any company off by the end.
I'd be surprised as I thought it was an Airbus?
You thought wrong. It was a Boeing 777.
I am then surprised. Damn my amnesia.