Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

[skyrover]

Willy Nilly said:

will the flight data recorders still be of any use?

I would imagine they will be fine physically for years if they have not been severely damaged in the crash, however the locator transmitter will have long since expired.

[Europa1]

Hooli said:

Europa1 said:

Hooli said:

Megaflow said:

Lets assume for a minute that they find the MH370 wreckage and the data recorders, and from that somehow find that this is 100% Boeing's fault, through a design flaw, manufacturing error or what ever.

Do Boeing then have to pick up the whole tab for the search effort?

Surely the bill will be big enough to finish any company off by the end.

I'd be surprised as I thought it was an Airbus?

You thought wrong. It was a Boeing 777.

I am then surprised. Damn my amnesia.

Maybe because they took the bit they found to Toulouse for analysis?

[Tasmindevil]

jshell said:

budgie smuggler said:

Tasmindevil said:

AUV, autonomous underwater vehicle so chuck it in the water and off it goes on a preprogrammed path so it is not tethered to a ship or remotely operated. The image is a high res sonar image, impressive image to say the least, some of our WROVs are used in munitions recovery and due to zero visibility they use a sonar camera, the image is so good you can zoom in and read the serial numbers of the shell casings.

Sounds like a seriously impressive bit of kit.

When they work. Sometimes.

Yes they have been known to swim off into the sunset, here's the fish

http://www.km.kongsberg.com/ks/web/nokbg0240.nsf/A...

[southendpier]

Tasmindevil said:

200bhp said:

Bibbs said:

The image (if that's actually it) is pretty impressive in the detail.

Its from an ROV not the towed sonar thing or the boat itself so I think it's believable.

AUV, autonomous underwater vehicle so chuck it in the water and off it goes on a preprogrammed path so it is not tethered to a ship or remotely operated. The image is a high res sonar image, impressive image to say the least, some of our WROVs are used in munitions recovery and due to zero visibility they use a sonar camera, the image is so good you can zoom in and read the serial numbers of the shell casings.

That sounds very impressive. Do you have a link showing sonar reading off shell cases? It would be fascinating to see.

[Tasmindevil]

southendpier said:

That sounds very impressive. Do you have a link showing sonar reading off shell cases? It would be fascinating to see.

Unfortunately not but here is a link to one supplier that shows some videos, sorry
http://www.blueview.com/

[AreOut]

On January 7, 2015, Etihad Airways 440 took off from Ho Chi Minh city bound for Abu Dhabi. But instead of flying to the northwest as usual, it headed due south replicating part of MH370 flight(including loiter in Malacca strait).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHy1zD8ptRs

MSM keeps silent, Etihad doesn't want to comment except "It was simply a scheduling decision".

[KTF]

AreOut said:

On January 7, 2015, Etihad Airways 440 took off from Ho Chi Minh city bound for Abu Dhabi. But instead of flying to the northwest as usual, it headed due south replicating part of MH370 flight(including loiter in Malacca strait).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHy1zD8ptRs

MSM keeps silent, Etihad doesn't want to comment except "It was simply a scheduling decision".

Whilst you are busy polishing your tin foil hat, have a browse of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/MH370/comments/40pcft/the...

[AreOut]

Nothing to do with tinfoil or any conspiracy(nor have I ever proposed such), just a strange curiosity.

[dvs_dave]

Looks like they might have found some more pieces of wreckage in the same area around Mozambique/Madagascar

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missi...

[anonymous-user]

dvs_dave said:

Looks like they might have found some more pieces of wreckage in the same area around Mozambique/Madagascar

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missi...

It will be like a jigsaw, each piece at a time and getting no closer to the truth. Maybe never will, as interest will wane in time and as times ticks more will disappear.

[rallycross]

I just had a read of his blog ( the chap who found the latest piece ) it's very interesting - he is funding his own personal search of that area and for the past 6 months has been searching remote beaches - no one else is looking in thee areas apart from him ( self funded!)

https://thehuntformh370.info/content/blaines-indep...

[Blaster72]

rallycross said:

I just had a read of his blog ( the chap who found the latest piece ) it's very interesting - he is funding his own personal search of that area and for the past 6 months has been searching remote beaches - no one else is looking in thee areas apart from him ( self funded!)

https://thehuntformh370.info/content/blaines-indep...

He seems to be searching the Maldives? That's a heck of a long way from Mozambique.

Is it definitely this chap that found the latest piece? If it is I'm ever so slightly sceptical - he seems a little tiny bit obsessed.

[rallycross]

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[AdeTuono]

Blaster72 said:

rallycross said:

I just had a read of his blog ( the chap who found the latest piece ) it's very interesting - he is funding his own personal search of that area and for the past 6 months has been searching remote beaches - no one else is looking in thee areas apart from him ( self funded!)

https://thehuntformh370.info/content/blaines-indep...

He seems to be searching the Maldives? That's a heck of a long way from Mozambique.

Is it definitely this chap that found the latest piece? If it is I'm ever so slightly sceptical - he seems a little tiny bit obsessed.

Not AreOut, is it? He's been very quiet of late.

[dvs_dave]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/anoth...

Yet another piece found? Although not sure if that picture in the article is of any relevance as it just looks like he's holding a white plastic bottle rather than a piece of aircraft wreckage.

Hopefully more and more pieces will wash up and we'll finally get some answers.

Edited by dvs_dave on Monday 7th March 01:26

[528Sport]

The ocean seems to be giving up its secrets, slowly.

I really hope they find the jet and the black boxes, the families need closure.

[Trevatanus]

All aircraft to be tracked?

http://www.airlive.net/news-un-aviation-council-or...

[MartG]

Trevatanus said:

All aircraft to be tracked?

http://www.airlive.net/news-un-aviation-council-or...

Didn't MH370 have a tracking device, but the pilot turned it off ?

Mandating that a tracker is fitted and permanently powered brings risks if it fails and causes a fire if the crew can't isolate it's power supply ?

[MarkRSi]

MartG said:

Mandating that a tracker is fitted and permanently powered brings risks if it fails and causes a fire if the crew can't isolate it's power supply ?

What's the risk of that happening though? How often do transponders etc. need isolating to prevent a fire?

Another option might be to have a transponder/tracker at the rear of the aircraft that can only be controlled by the cabin crew, although that could also be unplugged if terrorists take over an aircraft for example.

[KTF]

MarkRSi said:

What's the risk of that happening though? How often do transponders etc. need isolating to prevent a fire?

Its more that having the option to disable it is available, not how often its needed to be disabled.