Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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My wife know the pilot's family she is adamant that he was a steady dependable guy (no science behind that statement I accept), I fly Malaysia a fair bit long haul, and they were said to be on a final warning for Heathrow, due to planes arriving not having sufficient reserve to hold and having to be prioritized to land, never seen any official discussion of that.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Yipper said:
I did raise a similar point at the time that the plane escaped the earth atmosphere - however science got in the way and he speed it needed to achieve was simply not possible in an aircraft.

Or could it?
Maybe it’s orbiting the Earth in a low orbit?


AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Welshbeef said:
I did raise a similar point at the time that the plane escaped the earth atmosphere - however science got in the way and he speed it needed to achieve was simply not possible in an aircraft.

Or could it?
Maybe it’s orbiting the Earth in a low orbit?
with couple of simple turbofans certainly not, maybe if someone secretly installed a huge rocket engine on tarmac at KLIA and nobody noticed that wink

it was a failed attempt to bring the plane to australian territory, the only mystery to me is why it failed, technical(because of tampering with plane electronics) or “human” reasons

anything else just doesn’t make any sense from psychological POV

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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AreOut said:
with couple of simple turbofans certainly not, maybe if someone secretly installed a huge rocket engine on tarmac at KLIA and nobody noticed that wink

it was a failed attempt to bring the plane to australian territory, the only mystery to me is why it failed, technical(because of tampering with plane electronics) or “human” reasons

anything else just doesn’t make any sense from psychological POV
I know you’ve speculated on every possible outcome but I thought you were the one saying he was going to Christmas Island and the Captain was making a political protest? Are you now saying he was going to Australia and everything else doesn’t make sense? hehe

AdeTuono

7,259 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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AreOut said:
it was a failed attempt to bring the plane to australian territory, the only mystery to me is why it failed, technical(because of tampering with plane electronics) or “human” reasons

anything else just doesn’t make any sense from psychological POV
Almost four years on, and you're still spouting your madcap suppositions as facts.

Did the authorities ignore your expert advice?

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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AdeTuono said:
AreOut said:
it was a failed attempt to bring the plane to australian territory, the only mystery to me is why it failed, technical(because of tampering with plane electronics) or “human” reasons

anything else just doesn’t make any sense from psychological POV
Almost four years on, and you're still spouting your madcap suppositions as facts.

Did the authorities ignore your expert advice?
If you wanna find a psycho, you gotta think like a psycho!

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Authorities have spent $180+ million searching for plane and found nothing. There assumptions have failed..badly. It's easy to throw away money that isn't yours though.

El stovey said:
I know you’ve speculated on every possible outcome but I thought you were the one saying he was going to Christmas Island and the Captain was making a political protest? Are you now saying he was going to Australia and everything else doesn’t make sense? hehe
CI is australian territory, the theory is that he wanted to reach australian territory and failed for unknown reasons(passengers breached into cockpit, technical fault caused by tampering with plane electronics or who knows what else). It's supported by independent drift analysis which shows the most likely crash site to be SE of CI which he possibly failed to locate because of navi/comms failure.

Hijacks have 50% "success" rate so I don't know why people consider this impossible compared to other completely unfounded theories.



The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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M4cruiser said:
The Spruce goose said:
''00:41, 8 March 2014 (16:41 GMT, 7 March): Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 departed from Kuala Lumpur International Airport and was due to arrive in Beijing at 06:30 (22:30 GMT).''

i make that 6 hours flight time, the plane actually flew for another 1.5 hours so that would actually be a quite a bit of overfueling, something the captain has control over.
It looks like about 6 hours on Google maps, I've personally flown Hong Kong to Beijing and that's 3 hours; Kuala Lumpur looks like close to twice as far, even on a quick scan of the area.

Do we really know for sure how long it flew for? And 1.5 hours extra fuel doesn't sound an unreasonable contingency amount to me, but it may not be that much in time, because turning onto a different heading may affect how much fuel it uses. The actual load may depend on what the captain was expecting on the way weather wise, or what Beijing was reporting at the time.
There’s a relatively recent documentary on this flight that I watched last night. Either Amazon or Netflix.

They said the flight time was supposed to be 6 hours something and they were fueled for 8 hours something.

I did wonder if it was an experiment by the 20 employees of that defense contractor that were on the plane that went a little wrong...

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I think the Malaysian government knows more than it has let on.

yajeed

4,898 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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The Freescale link is a red herring IMHO. Just because you send 20 engineers on a flight doesn't mean they'd be doing anything other than sitting reading a book/eating terrible food.

I work in that industry. What's your theory, that the plane was sabotaged so take out the engineers and obtain access to the patents (which I saw in an article)? That they were trialling radical cloaking technology (which they somehow managed to carry in hand luggage and get through security)?

They're all so far fetched and scraping the bottom of the proverbial..

oobster

7,101 posts

212 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Story in the Daily Mail (I know, I know) today about how the Seabed Constructor (the no-find-no-fee ship scanning the ocean floor) 'disappeared' for 3 days last week.

Conspiracy theories abound, apparently.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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the thing is no find no fee, so if they have found it, it makes no sense to hide it.

Chrisgr31

13,488 posts

256 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Theory appears to be it is exploring shipwrecks that have been found during the earlier hunt in the hope of finding treasure

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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quite a stupid theory, they could explore it regardless of MH370 case if they wanted to

MartG

20,694 posts

205 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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AreOut said:
quite a stupid theory, they could explore it regardless of MH370 case if they wanted to
But it means that should they come across the remains of the aircraft they get paid

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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AreOut said:
quite a stupid theory, they could explore it regardless of MH370 case if they wanted to
yes i imagine any contract isn't open ended.

TheGuru

744 posts

102 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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AreOut said:
it was a failed attempt to bring the plane to australian territory, the only mystery to me is why it failed, technical(because of tampering with plane electronics) or “human” reasons
Probably the most nonsensical theory I've read, Malaysian Airlines flies regularly to Australia, to multiple cities. Malaysia and Australia are generally friendly, the pilots would probably even be scheduled to fly to Australia on occasions due to their roster.

Absolutely nothing to be gained or any political points to be made.

Jader1973

4,011 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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oobster said:
Conspiracy theories abound, apparently.
They found it floating intact on the surface, opened it up, and a 3 day battle between the ship’s crew and the zombies from the plane ensued. Zombies won and now they have a boat.

Am I close?

AdeTuono

7,259 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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TheGuru said:
AreOut said:
it was a failed attempt to bring the plane to australian territory, the only mystery to me is why it failed, technical(because of tampering with plane electronics) or “human” reasons
Probably the most nonsensical theory I've read, Malaysian Airlines flies regularly to Australia, to multiple cities. Malaysia and Australia are generally friendly, the pilots would probably even be scheduled to fly to Australia on occasions due to their roster.

Absolutely nothing to be gained or any political points to be made.
One of his many nonsensical theories...


oobster

7,101 posts

212 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Jader1973 said:
oobster said:
Conspiracy theories abound, apparently.
They found it floating intact on the surface, opened it up, and a 3 day battle between the ship’s crew and the zombies from the plane ensued. Zombies won and now they have a boat.

Am I close?
Spot on i'd say.