Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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Starfighter

4,933 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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For all pilots have the check list drummed in to them, in an emergency they do what feels right. Heathrow 777 moving the flaps to reduce drag as the cost of increased speed and the Hudson crash forced water landing activating the APU bing 2 examples.

We will never know what the pilot was thinking unless we find the voice recorder and find a running commentary. I doubt that will happen.

Petrus1983

8,777 posts

163 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Starfighter said:
I doubt that will happen.
I feel that now. Genuinely one of the 21st century’s big mysteries. I don’t like the suicide theory personally as we’re tarring someone without any real proof and is also dead and can’t defend himself.

AdeTuono

7,262 posts

228 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Petrus1983 said:
I feel that now. Genuinely one of the 21st century’s big mysteries. I don’t like the suicide theory personally as we’re tarring someone without any real proof and is also dead and can’t defend himself.
Ah, but is he dead? IIRC, someone on here posited (seriously) that the plane may have potentially escaped Earth's atmosphere. If that's the case, they could all be alive & well on Mars.

Willhire89

1,330 posts

206 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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AlexIT said:
I can't add anything to the more technical posts, but I have a question from a more practical point of view: in such situation, why would the pilot lower the landing gear?
To make it run out of fuel sooner?

Petrus1983

8,777 posts

163 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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AdeTuono said:
Ah, but is he dead? IIRC, someone on here posited (seriously) that the plane may have potentially escaped Earth's atmosphere. If that's the case, they could all be alive & well on Mars.
I suppose you’ve got a good point.










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rodericb

6,775 posts

127 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Maybe that's why Musk is so keen to get to Mars. Didn't that flight have a pallet or two of Samsung batteries in the cargo bay?

type-r

14,106 posts

214 months

Friday 8th March
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10 years today and still no overall sign of the plane.

Still incredible how a plane can vanish in this day and age with virtually no trace, bar a few confirmed aircraft parts washing up. The lives that have been devastated, the conspiracy theories and the mystery itself of the flght.

We know what happened; it's the how and why that still fascinates in different ways.

Randy Winkman

16,211 posts

190 months

Friday 8th March
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Very sad.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001x0yh/why...

"Why Planes Vanish" on TV a couple of days ago.

rallycross

12,825 posts

238 months

Friday 8th March
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type-r said:
10 years today and still no overall sign of the plane.

Still incredible how a plane can vanish in this day and age with virtually no trace, bar a few confirmed aircraft parts washing up. The lives that have been devastated, the conspiracy theories and the mystery itself of the flght.

We know what happened; it's the how and why that still fascinates in different ways.
Amazing after ten years all we know is bits have been recovered and most recent parts found the Malaysian government did not want to investigate any more items so cover up most likely explanation

https://youtu.be/YU5jjB46w0E?si=sheQ-OPnp1Q6C_dt


Megaflow

9,457 posts

226 months

Sunday 10th March
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I see there are a couple of chancers still claiming to know where it is. There is Richard Godfrey with his WSPR.

Then the other day, I saw a piece by 60 minutes Australia and there was a fisherman claiming he haul up the wing, not he did not say piece of the wing, he said 'the wing' in his fishing nets. Amazing considering the whole wing would be at least twice the size of the boat his was on and amazingly he did not take any pictures of it...

rolleyes

I saw another interesting piece on it, all the search areas work on the assumption it was an uncontrolled crash, and the belief is Malaysian government do not want to authorise of search of the area where it could be if it was a controlled ditching, because that opens up the possibility of pilot suicide and as the Government part own the airline they would be partially responsible for any costs after the airline are found to be liable!

uk66fastback

16,582 posts

272 months

Sunday 10th March
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What’s his WSPR??

GliderRider

2,123 posts

82 months

Sunday 10th March
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uk66fastback said:
What’s his WSPR??
WSPR = Weak Signals Propogation Reporter

It is analysis of the distortion of amateur radio signals, which shows the location of aircraft when they cross them.

WSPR and MH370

Edited by GliderRider on Sunday 10th March 11:35

sugerbear

4,065 posts

159 months

Sunday 10th March
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uk66fastback said:
What’s his WSPR??
The bbc program was interesting and explained some of it. Basically radio waves are sent out and when the plane flies through the radio wave it will cause disruption which can be measured. The theory sounded plausible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSPR_(amateur_radi...

JagLover

42,481 posts

236 months

Sunday 10th March
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Anyone else seen this?

It is the theory that the Captain did it and the scenario fitting the known facts.


MonkeyBusiness

3,940 posts

188 months

Sunday 10th March
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JagLover said:
Anyone else seen this?

It is the theory that the Captain did it and the scenario fitting the known facts.

Yes. Thought it was very good.

JagLover

42,481 posts

236 months

Sunday 10th March
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MonkeyBusiness said:
Yes. Thought it was very good.
So did I. Best documentary I have seen for a while,

Some supposition, unavoidable as presenting a "scenario", but if the facts they mention are true it is hard to see any other conclusion from them.

Megaflow

9,457 posts

226 months

Sunday 10th March
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JagLover said:
MonkeyBusiness said:
Yes. Thought it was very good.
So did I. Best documentary I have seen for a while,

Some supposition, unavoidable as presenting a "scenario", but if the facts they mention are true it is hard to see any other conclusion from them.
I've not seen that one, I'll watch it later.

Scotty2

1,276 posts

267 months

Sunday 10th March
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Very good. Seems to tie in all the clues in a logical way. When you add the potential "WSPA" evidence it would seem to be the very likely scenario. Amazing they could tell by the frequency changes to the handshake what was happening to the plane!

peterperkins

3,152 posts

243 months

Sunday 10th March
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GliderRider said:
WSPR = Weak Signals Propogation Reporter

It is analysis of the distortion of amateur radio signals, which shows the location of aircraft when they cross them.

WSPR and MH370
That's very clever and seems to justify a further search in the now much smaller target area.

aeropilot

34,697 posts

228 months

Sunday 10th March
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peterperkins said:
GliderRider said:
WSPR = Weak Signals Propogation Reporter

It is analysis of the distortion of amateur radio signals, which shows the location of aircraft when they cross them.

WSPR and MH370
That's very clever and seems to justify a further search in the now much smaller target area.
Search for what.....?

Other the large heavy objects of the two engines, and the landing gear assemblies, there will be nothing to find, the rest of the aircraft disintegrated on impact at high speed into the sea......hence just the small fragments that have turned up over the years.