Freedom from TV license oppression
Discussion
Ozzie Osmond said:
"communism?"
"state intimidation?"
It's less than 40p a day!!!!
And once upon a time when £12.12 a month was good money to me it was. I could quite happily have not watched or listened to the BBC if that was the choice, just as I didn't have Sky - but I had a choice with Sky."state intimidation?"
It's less than 40p a day!!!!
These days £12.12 per month just gets lost and hardly registers and I am able to afford Sky (no Movies or Sports though, only F1 - I'm not that well off!)
For me it isn't the fact that I have to pay £12.12pcm to watch/listen to BBC stuff, it's the fact that i HAVE to pay it regardless of if I never so much as even look at what is on those channels if I wish to own a TV and connect it to see all the other 100's of FREE channels that have nothing to do with the BBC. In this day and age that is not cricket.
gherkins said:
Same in Germany - and it costs more than the UK licence for utter crap. I would happily pay double to the BBC if I could legally get it instead of funding oompah oompah music or reruns of MacGyver and Columbo (of course not available in original version as you have to protect your poor dubbing artists).
They scrapped the TV licence in Finland, and added it to income tax. Which is nice if you're living alone, as the licence was 252€(!) whereas the extra tax is 140€ for someone on an average salary. Not so nice for a two-income household...Rude-boy said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
"communism?"
"state intimidation?"
It's less than 40p a day!!!!
And once upon a time when £12.12 a month was good money to me it was. I could quite happily have not watched or listened to the BBC if that was the choice, just as I didn't have Sky - but I had a choice with Sky."state intimidation?"
It's less than 40p a day!!!!
These days £12.12 per month just gets lost and hardly registers and I am able to afford Sky (no Movies or Sports though, only F1 - I'm not that well off!)
For me it isn't the fact that I have to pay £12.12pcm to watch/listen to BBC stuff, it's the fact that i HAVE to pay it regardless of if I never so much as even look at what is on those channels if I wish to own a TV and connect it to see all the other 100's of FREE channels that have nothing to do with the BBC. In this day and age that is not cricket.
We have just bought a second property to work out of in the week. We don't have a TV licence at this new property as it doesn't have and aerial or satellite dish and we have taken to only watching online catch-up services and DVDs (which we mostly do at home too).
We do have a TV licence at our main home and have no issue paying for it. It's not like TV licences are exclusive to the UK either - many of our European neighbours employ a similar system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence
If it were abolished - the running costs of the BBC would be born by general taxation, meaning you can't opt out. I think the current system is fair - don't want to pay it - don't watch live broadcasts. It's not like the world is devoid of alternatives these days.
We do have a TV licence at our main home and have no issue paying for it. It's not like TV licences are exclusive to the UK either - many of our European neighbours employ a similar system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence
If it were abolished - the running costs of the BBC would be born by general taxation, meaning you can't opt out. I think the current system is fair - don't want to pay it - don't watch live broadcasts. It's not like the world is devoid of alternatives these days.
Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 18th March 19:10
Mr Pointy said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Mmm and they could probably reduce the level of proof
How can i prove i've never watched x-factor in the privacy in my own home.
I can't
Well I believe they would just have to prove you COULD have watched it, so if you have the aerial cable plugged in then it's game over.How can i prove i've never watched x-factor in the privacy in my own home.
I can't
Ok this is long and a lots of stuff about acts vs law but they try to prove if he can watch live broadcasts on his PC he has the ability to watch so needs a licence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8zQS38S82U
I would cancel my licence but I don't want to have to deal with this crap.
It's a silly system and I can't see it lasting.
There was a time when the BBC was needed. I don't think that 'need' is still there.
The increase in online viewing, smart TV's etc will force change.
I have a TV licence only due to the Mrs watching the odd soap maybe once a week when I'm not there.
Otherwise we use Netflix which is more than suffient for most of our viewing. If I really want to watch a BBC program I can leagally use iplayer (recorded) without a licence. The BBC is the last place I go for news.
There was a time when the BBC was needed. I don't think that 'need' is still there.
The increase in online viewing, smart TV's etc will force change.
I have a TV licence only due to the Mrs watching the odd soap maybe once a week when I'm not there.
Otherwise we use Netflix which is more than suffient for most of our viewing. If I really want to watch a BBC program I can leagally use iplayer (recorded) without a licence. The BBC is the last place I go for news.
Tannedbaldhead said:
No adverts at live football half time? no adverts during F1? I'd pay my licence fee for that alone. I'm also quite happy for anyone jeopardizing that small pleasure of mine by not paying their license fee to be thrown in jail.
errr whilst i agree in theory, I don't think 15mins of Robbie Savage and Ian Wright talking b
ks is necessarily the BBCs best output.Ozzie Osmond said:
"communism?"
"state intimidation?"
It's less than 40p a day!!!!
and instead of crapita relying on self incrimination in most cases, you'll have the knuckle dragging mouth breathers that somehow get 'certifcated' as bailiffs trying all the tricks " Officers " use on " defendents" and " perpetrators " ... "state intimidation?"
It's less than 40p a day!!!!
Cotty said:
Mr Pointy said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Mmm and they could probably reduce the level of proof
How can i prove i've never watched x-factor in the privacy in my own home.
I can't
Well I believe they would just have to prove you COULD have watched it, so if you have the aerial cable plugged in then it's game over.How can i prove i've never watched x-factor in the privacy in my own home.
I can't
Ok this is long and a lots of stuff about acts vs law but they try to prove if he can watch live broadcasts on his PC he has the ability to watch so needs a licence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8zQS38S82U
I would cancel my licence but I don't want to have to deal with this crap.
It is the principle. Why should owning a piece of TV equipment mean you have to pay for a particular broadcaster?
Imagine if instead of the BBC you were forced to pay for FOX in order to have the right to have a TV.
It isn't acceptable. I have not paid a TV licence for many years for this reason and will never pay the BBC a penny in the future until the licencing system is changed.
Imagine if instead of the BBC you were forced to pay for FOX in order to have the right to have a TV.
It isn't acceptable. I have not paid a TV licence for many years for this reason and will never pay the BBC a penny in the future until the licencing system is changed.
Rick101 said:
It's a silly system and I can't see it lasting.
There was a time when the BBC was needed. I don't think that 'need' is still there.
The increase in online viewing, smart TV's etc will force change.
I have a TV licence only due to the Mrs watching the odd soap maybe once a week when I'm not there.
Otherwise we use Netflix which is more than suffient for most of our viewing. If I really want to watch a BBC program I can leagally use iplayer (recorded) without a licence. The BBC is the last place I go for news.
The TV License will be dead within a few years as will conventional TV as we know it. There was a time when the BBC was needed. I don't think that 'need' is still there.
The increase in online viewing, smart TV's etc will force change.
I have a TV licence only due to the Mrs watching the odd soap maybe once a week when I'm not there.
Otherwise we use Netflix which is more than suffient for most of our viewing. If I really want to watch a BBC program I can leagally use iplayer (recorded) without a licence. The BBC is the last place I go for news.
The license is so that you can legally receive live broadcasts. The arrival of On Demand has begun the demise of live streaming media.
However, I look at Freeview and there is nothing of any intellectual value outside of the BBC. For me the core benefit of the BBC is two fold. Firstly a program that it makes does not have to be profitable so the BBC airs programs that commercial TV will never commission or broadcast. Secondly, the content of commercial TV has to be defined by what products can be sold during the breaks. The products with the best take up are the ones that appeal to the more stupid or simple people and so the programmes that are broadcast are tailored to suit. Hence the plethora of When Sharks Attack, Petre Andre Gets Paid a Monthly Retainer To Pretend He Is Wealthy, Saturday Night w
k Factor and the remaining vast array of vegetable manure. onomatopoeia said:
Breadvan72 said:
I long for the days when we will be free of the oppression of those who cannot spell licence.
Perhaps you could advise them of the correct spelling. Or maybe offer them advice. 
Think I got that right.
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