Is 'Public Interest Lawyers' an oxymoron?

Is 'Public Interest Lawyers' an oxymoron?

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Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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Curiously, the Law establishment continue to remain mute through all this. Where is the condemnation by his peers at the disrepute of their 'honourable' profession? And who would 'profess' membership of it?
Mark Twain: "The mere title of Lawyer is enough to deprive a man of public confidence".

The Don of Croy

5,998 posts

159 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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Digga said:
...£31m of public money squandered on an inquiry instigated by his case...
I just thank the Lord we live in such an opulent and rich country that can splurge away millions like that without a second thought.

It's not as if the money could be better spent elsewhere...austerity is for others.

Credit to the OP - it's very much an oxymoron.

Digga

40,320 posts

283 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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The Don of Croy said:
Digga said:
...£31m of public money squandered on an inquiry instigated by his case...
I just thank the Lord we live in such an opulent and rich country that can splurge away millions like that without a second thought.

It's not as if the money could be better spent elsewhere...austerity is for others.

Credit to the OP - it's very much an oxymoron.
It makes me both angry and upset when I think of genuinely good causes - lots of them - that could have better used the money.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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Digga said:
It makes me both angry and upset when I think of genuinely good causes - lots of them - that could have better used the money.
Can you begin to imagine the distress this fvcking man and his cohorts caused to innocent servicemen accused of war crimes for nearly a decade? Victims bribed to give false testimony? I hope he dies in prison. One with a few ex servicemen.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 3rd February 15:14

Digga

40,320 posts

283 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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fblm said:
Digga said:
It makes me both angry and upset when I think of genuinely good causes - lots of them - that could have better used the money.
Can you begin to imagine the distress this fvcking man and his cohorts caused to innocent servicemen accused of war crimes for nearly a decade? Victims bribed to give false testimony? I hope he dies in prison. One with a few ex servicemen.

Edited by fblm on Friday 3rd February 15:14
Oh I am sure they will be looking out for him.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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Every comment has been guarded. Understandable, but nonetheless..

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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fblm said:
Digga said:
It makes me both angry and upset when I think of genuinely good causes - lots of them - that could have better used the money.
Can you begin to imagine the distress this fvcking man and his cohorts caused to innocent servicemen accused of war crimes for nearly a decade? Victims bribed to give false testimony? I hope he dies in prison. One with a few ex servicemen.

Edited by fblm on Friday 3rd February 15:14
Quite a few prison guards are ex servicemen.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/12/disgrac...

Lost his way? Yeah I'd say that's something of a monumental fvcking understatement Ms Shadow Attorney General. Jesus Christ Corbyn knows how to pick 'em.

The Don of Croy

5,998 posts

159 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Reported last week that the Iraq abuse inquiry is to be wound down as a result of the demise of Phil Shiner's brigade of chancers - that's another £60m gone from the public purse. All to a good cause.

Digga

40,320 posts

283 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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£60m that, theoretically, could have been spent on care for servicemen and women returning from service with physical and mental damage. The waste of money is utterly repugnant, as is the contempt with with some of the liberal left treat the forces who allow them the luxury of never having to fear or fight for their own lives.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Chakrabarti typifies everything that is wrong with the liberal left.

An entire life paid for by the public purse, total absence of impartiality & prepared to chuck anything or anyone under a bus to promote her warped sense of fair play.

Chuckrabati, a fitting title indeed.

williamp

19,256 posts

273 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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More bad news: he has complained about being harassed by the press...

https://order-order.com/2017/02/13/tank-chasing-sh...

Poor thing. Cant he count his millions in peace?

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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williamp said:
More bad news: he has complained about being harassed by the press...

https://order-order.com/2017/02/13/tank-chasing-sh...

Poor thing. Cant he count his millions in peace?


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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telegraph said:
The disgraced lawyer who led the “witch hunt” against Iraq war veterans that cost the British taxpayer £100 million has declared himself bankrupt, meaning he could now avoid paying his debts.

Phil Shiner, who was struck off as a solicitor for dishonesty and is now facing a criminal investigation, sold his home to his two daughters just a few weeks before applying for bankruptcy.
telegraph said:
Land Registry documents show that on Jan 10 Shiner sold his home in Selly Park in Birmingham for £300,000 to two grown-up daughters Bethany Shiner, a solicitor, and Leisha Shiner, who bought the house for cash.

Both women had at one stage worked for Public Interest Lawyers (PIL), the law firm set up by their father. Neighbours said yesterday that Shiner was still living in the house which he purchased outright for £320,000 in 2012. That means Shiner sold the house for £20,000 less than he paid for it five years ago.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/16/iraq-witch-hunt-lawyer-phil-shiner-could-avoid-paying-debts/amp/

kowalski655

14,640 posts

143 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Will his trustee in bankruptcy be allowed to look at this transaction as dodgy? I certainly hope so.

Digga

40,320 posts

283 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Shiner by name shyster by nature.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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kowalski655 said:
Will his trustee in bankruptcy be allowed to look at this transaction as dodgy? I certainly hope so.
Yes. AIUI Any transaction within 5 years can be set aside, particularly a transaction at a discount or gift. In practice I'm not sure how that would work if he sold the house and has since spent the money; the transaction can't be undone, only the house transferred back into his 'estate' and the buyer join the list of creditors? That would be funny as the buyer also worked for him. Oh I do hope he is prosecuted soon.

Mike_Mac

664 posts

200 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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Ironically I was just thinking about this prick today - specifically, whether he started out with good intentions and went crooked, or was just a no-morals weasel from the outset...

...Question answered!

Exoticaholic

1,044 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Judgement was issued on 23rd March by the SDT in London.

78 pages and it didn't mince any words against Shiner.

Said person has been hit with a £772,983 costs bill.

And that's not the end of it.

Edited by Exoticaholic on Saturday 25th March 17:22

Markbarry1977

4,065 posts

103 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Exoticaholic said:
Judgement was issued on 23rd March by the SDT in London.

78 pages and it didn't mince any words against Shiner.

Said person has been hit with a £772,983 costs bill.

And that's not the end of it.

Edited by Exoticaholic on Saturday 25th March 17:22
Bloody excellent news, he'll never pay it but excellent news anyway.