Clarkson: Racist
Discussion
boyse7en said:
Mr Snap said:
I didn't go to the local paper to complain about it, though...
No because your job doesn't involve writing about what you do on a daily basis for publication in newspapers, magazines and online blogs.Clarkson is paid to write stuff about what he is doing, and so he did.
A bit like the bloke from the BBC who phoned him up, you mean? (Except the bloke from the BBC won't have a chance to either defend himself).
boyse7en said:
Clarkson is paid to write stuff about what he is doing, and so he did.
Oh please....its not Adrian Mole's diary! He writes about what will sell....and this sells well, I'm surprised his fans aren't calling for some sort of protest at the home of the BBC employee that called him!Whatever you say about him he is a first class wordsmith. I have just been to Yorkshire where my aging parents are closing in on the final part of their lives. With a father who is suffering dementia wasting away. Their house, my home until I was over 20, is the same as he described, full of memories of happy times, of events that at the time meant nothing and now mean so much, how would I decide.
The terrible toast rack I made at school which is so treasured by them you would think I was Chippendale, how could I throw it out, where would I hide it?
I cannot imagine how long it will take to sort out when the inevitable scythe of death makes the final sweep and takes them from me. Reading that piece made me think of the what is to come and how I will be.
Unlike some on here, I did not read that as an attack on the BBC manager, what I read was how when something like this happens how unimportant petty things are. Yes he has fame, yes the press would love to see a reaction but does any of it matter, he is rich but at the loss of a parent I suspect I will feel a very poor man like most of us would. Perhaps writing about was somehow cathartic for him, but clearly his mother knew how hard it would be for him to deal with, so her final act of love was to do the hard things herself and leave them with dignity, to write about that is not wrong.
The terrible toast rack I made at school which is so treasured by them you would think I was Chippendale, how could I throw it out, where would I hide it?
I cannot imagine how long it will take to sort out when the inevitable scythe of death makes the final sweep and takes them from me. Reading that piece made me think of the what is to come and how I will be.
Unlike some on here, I did not read that as an attack on the BBC manager, what I read was how when something like this happens how unimportant petty things are. Yes he has fame, yes the press would love to see a reaction but does any of it matter, he is rich but at the loss of a parent I suspect I will feel a very poor man like most of us would. Perhaps writing about was somehow cathartic for him, but clearly his mother knew how hard it would be for him to deal with, so her final act of love was to do the hard things herself and leave them with dignity, to write about that is not wrong.
spaximus said:
Unlike some on here, I did not read that as an attack on the BBC manager, what I read was how when something like this happens how unimportant petty things are.
That exactly how I read it. A comment on how someone important to you dying making other stuff seem unimportant. Not a pop at the BBC guy at all.Tiggsy said:
Oh please....its not Adrian Mole's diary! He writes about what will sell....and this sells well, I'm surprised his fans aren't calling for some sort of protest at the home of the BBC employee that called him!
Of course he writes about what will sell (ie, what is popular with his readership/readership of the particular media he is is writing for). That's why companies pay him to write – to sell as many copies as they can.It read to me like he was on the verge of telling everyone to bugger off because he couldn't be arsed to deal with their crap and if he did, I can't say I'd blame him. I doubt he really has to work as hard as he does, so it is a real option for him if he gets worn down by it all. I know he can be deliberately provocative, but the most recent saga turned into a daft witch hunt and was a sad indictment of what this country has become.
I would kill to have half of Clarkson's writing ability nd presentational talent. IMHO he's up there with the best satirists (e.g. Alan Coren, Craig Brown, Simon Hoggart) and star writers such as Charles Shaar Murray, AA Gill.
These are people who stand out from the mass of instantly forgettable egotistical confessional rubbish churned out by any number of second-rate self-styled celebrity columnists.
He's also a presenter of rare talent. If you doubt that, get a mate to jab a microphone and camera in your face and recite the script you just wrote as if it is spontaneous speech.
Clarkson's use of metaphor is sublime. He writes in the pared-down simplified style of the trained reporter that he is. So he instantly engages the reader (as proven by the fact that people on this thread have read his articles in their entirety and can recall everything he wrote.
Anyone who thinks he is a misogynistic racist probably also thinks 'Animal Farm' is about a farmyard . He uses hyperbole, sarcasm and irony to poke fun at the general uselessness of those who run society.
He is also a damn fine documentary maker. And he once thumped Piers Morgan, which alone should assure him of a Knighthood.
These are people who stand out from the mass of instantly forgettable egotistical confessional rubbish churned out by any number of second-rate self-styled celebrity columnists.
He's also a presenter of rare talent. If you doubt that, get a mate to jab a microphone and camera in your face and recite the script you just wrote as if it is spontaneous speech.
Clarkson's use of metaphor is sublime. He writes in the pared-down simplified style of the trained reporter that he is. So he instantly engages the reader (as proven by the fact that people on this thread have read his articles in their entirety and can recall everything he wrote.
Anyone who thinks he is a misogynistic racist probably also thinks 'Animal Farm' is about a farmyard . He uses hyperbole, sarcasm and irony to poke fun at the general uselessness of those who run society.
He is also a damn fine documentary maker. And he once thumped Piers Morgan, which alone should assure him of a Knighthood.
Edited by audidoody on Thursday 12th June 09:52
Mr Snap said:
boyse7en said:
Mr Snap said:
I didn't go to the local paper to complain about it, though...
No because your job doesn't involve writing about what you do on a daily basis for publication in newspapers, magazines and online blogs.Clarkson is paid to write stuff about what he is doing, and so he did.
A bit like the bloke from the BBC who phoned him up, you mean? (Except the bloke from the BBC won't have a chance to either defend himself).
Get it now....?
audidoody said:
I would kill to have half of Clarkson's writing ability nd presentational talent. IMHO he's up there with the best satirists (e.g. Alan Coren, Craig Brown, Simon Hoggart) and star writers such as Charles Shaar Murray, AA Gill.
These are people who stand out from the mass of instantly forgettable egotistical confessional rubbish churned out by any number of second-rate self-styled celebrity columnists.
He's also a presenter of rare talent. If you doubt that, get a mate to jab a microphone and camera in your face and recite the script you just wrote as if it is spontaneous speech.
Clarkson's use of metaphor is sublime. He writes in the pared-down simplified style of the trained reporter that he is. So he instantly engages the reader (as proven by the fact that people on this thread have read his articles in there entirety and can recall everything he wrote.
Anyone who thinks he is a misogynistic racist probably also thinks 'Animal Farm' is about a farmyard . He uses hyperbole, sarcasm and irony to poke fun at the general uselessness of those who run society.
He is also a damn fine documentary maker. And he once thumped Piers Morgan, which alone should assure him of a Knighthood.
I agree. These are people who stand out from the mass of instantly forgettable egotistical confessional rubbish churned out by any number of second-rate self-styled celebrity columnists.
He's also a presenter of rare talent. If you doubt that, get a mate to jab a microphone and camera in your face and recite the script you just wrote as if it is spontaneous speech.
Clarkson's use of metaphor is sublime. He writes in the pared-down simplified style of the trained reporter that he is. So he instantly engages the reader (as proven by the fact that people on this thread have read his articles in there entirety and can recall everything he wrote.
Anyone who thinks he is a misogynistic racist probably also thinks 'Animal Farm' is about a farmyard . He uses hyperbole, sarcasm and irony to poke fun at the general uselessness of those who run society.
He is also a damn fine documentary maker. And he once thumped Piers Morgan, which alone should assure him of a Knighthood.
mybrainhurts said:
A lot seems to go over your head. Try reading more slowly. He wasn't having a go at the BBC bloke, he was having a thoroughly deserved go at hysterical MPs. What do you want him to say, something like an unnamed source told me a bunch of MPs had contacted the BBC?
Get it now....?
Well, there you go, isn't that the beauty of English literature? You read it and see one thing, I read it and see something else.Get it now....?
He was having a go at the BBC, The Daily Mirror, reporters in general and the MP. Clarkson refers to the BBC twice at the top of the piece, first as 'bleating' and second as 'moaning'. In fact uses the BBC et al as a rhetorical device to take us from the trivial to the sublime; a sort of reverse bathos. Without the bit about the BBC, the stuff about his mother would sound merely trite and self pitying.
Clarkson is utterly self-serving. He's telling us what a lovely 'sensitive' chap he is whilst having a free swipe at his enemies. Worse still, he's being paid for it.
Do you get it now?
otolith said:
It's surprising how much spite can drip from people who no doubt think of themselves as having more humane values than others.
Maybe, if you think about it for a moment, you'll realise that you've just done precisely what you're trying to criticise. Of course, calling people 'slopes' and trying '
', on for size (before deciding it probably isn't quite funny enough) isn't in the least bit spiteful..? (BTW. This is the point where you say I haven't got a sense of humour, in case you hadn't twigged).
Mr Snap said:
otolith said:
It's surprising how much spite can drip from people who no doubt think of themselves as having more humane values than others.
Maybe, if you think about it for a moment, you'll realise that you've just done precisely what you're trying to criticise. heebeegeetee said:
audidoody said:
I would kill to have half of Clarkson's writing ability nd presentational talent. IMHO he's up there with the best satirists (e.g. Alan Coren, Craig Brown, Simon Hoggart) and star writers such as Charles Shaar Murray, AA Gill.
These are people who stand out from the mass of instantly forgettable egotistical confessional rubbish churned out by any number of second-rate self-styled celebrity columnists.
He's also a presenter of rare talent. If you doubt that, get a mate to jab a microphone and camera in your face and recite the script you just wrote as if it is spontaneous speech.
Clarkson's use of metaphor is sublime. He writes in the pared-down simplified style of the trained reporter that he is. So he instantly engages the reader (as proven by the fact that people on this thread have read his articles in there entirety and can recall everything he wrote.
Anyone who thinks he is a misogynistic racist probably also thinks 'Animal Farm' is about a farmyard . He uses hyperbole, sarcasm and irony to poke fun at the general uselessness of those who run society.
He is also a damn fine documentary maker. And he once thumped Piers Morgan, which alone should assure him of a Knighthood.
I agree. These are people who stand out from the mass of instantly forgettable egotistical confessional rubbish churned out by any number of second-rate self-styled celebrity columnists.
He's also a presenter of rare talent. If you doubt that, get a mate to jab a microphone and camera in your face and recite the script you just wrote as if it is spontaneous speech.
Clarkson's use of metaphor is sublime. He writes in the pared-down simplified style of the trained reporter that he is. So he instantly engages the reader (as proven by the fact that people on this thread have read his articles in there entirety and can recall everything he wrote.
Anyone who thinks he is a misogynistic racist probably also thinks 'Animal Farm' is about a farmyard . He uses hyperbole, sarcasm and irony to poke fun at the general uselessness of those who run society.
He is also a damn fine documentary maker. And he once thumped Piers Morgan, which alone should assure him of a Knighthood.
otolith said:
Let me know when you've got some personal tragedy, and we can see how much joy I take in it.
As I explained earlier, my mother died too. The only difference is that I didn't use her death as an opportunity to make a bit of money or to castigate the BBC, the Daily Mirror or anyone else for that matter. The fact is that everyone's mother and father dies, including those of celebrities. Most people simply get on with it. Very few celebrities look on the death of a parent as an opportunity to slag off people who are simply doing their job in an altogether different sphere of their life (the celebrity's life, that is). Most people have better taste and discretion. Anyway, just to lift the mood, here's Clarkson showing his own unique brand of sympathy towards people who commit suicide under trains:
"The train cannot be removed nor the line re-opened until all of the victim's body has been recovered. And sometimes the head can be half a mile away from the feet." ... "Change the driver, pick up the big bits of what's left of the victim, get the train moving as quickly as possible and let foxy woxy and the birds nibble away at the smaller, gooey parts that are far away or hard to find"
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