Clarkson: Racist

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bitchstewie

51,402 posts

211 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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I do find it a little naive that people are trying to claim "It was a bridge and it was sloping".

I think it's pretty clear what he meant tbh, I'm not that old and even I'm familiar with the word "slope" in that context, though what I don't know is how badly it's perceived.

BJG1

5,966 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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Not defending the law suit but that was definitely racial slur.

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

166 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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We used to live in a world of humour. Where did it go?

rix

2,787 posts

191 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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FwdConvert said:
As soon as I saw it, knowing the term from the likes of Pulp Fiction (the Walken watch scene) I gave a guilty, involuntary, slightly nervous, chuckle thinking it meant exactly what they presume; a bit risque in typical TG style (as I noted to my brother) but beyond that, so what? Bad taste maybe, but damaging? Really?
Completely this. O/T that scene is epic!

FwdConvert

305 posts

123 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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anonymous said:
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Don't know, but it's a slippery slope they've embarked on...

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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FwdConvert said:
And you don't have to think you have a right to sue someone, demand they publicly prostrate themselves in faux forgiveness or close down a show loved by millions because you are don't like something.
Anyone got a wall they need demolishing? I might use my head.

Apologies and suing are two different things. Is there any formatting way of doubling bolding text, maybe make if flash in bright red or something?


FwdConvert

305 posts

123 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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Bang away, she and her craven backers are demanding/threatening both. Not to mention that that reply was a general one referring to all such professional victims and their self important and undue demand habit.

BJG1

5,966 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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anonymous said:
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I don't know how "bad" a term it is so can't really comment. If he'd been stood next to an armour suit and said "there's a in this armour" lifted up the grill on the helmet to reveal a grinning Chinese man what would the reaction be? It's the same joke IMO, assuming "slope" and "" are similarly offensive. In my example, I don't see much wrong with it other than it's not that funny.

FwdConvert

305 posts

123 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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anonymous said:
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I've been called worse without feeling the need to demand knee bending. TheEnd has just implied I'm an uncritical and stupid reader for example, having missed the point of a reply. But, best I slope off now for fear of upsetting others' touchy sensibilities and sense of self-importance/self-rightness - yes End I am thinking of you...

BJG1

5,966 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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well according to the swear filter chinc is more offensive than slope!

FwdConvert

305 posts

123 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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TheEnd said:
flyingvisit said:
TheEnd said:
You don't have to be the victim to not like something.
So because she doesn't like something, she's entitled to a million in compo? The world has gone crazy.
Hoofy said:
WAIT A SEC.

She's not even oriental-looking. WTF. She might as well be a white middle class woman and sue Clarkson.
What on earth is wrong with you pair?

Again, as per my previous quote, what happened in WW2? Britain wasn't invaded, Britain stood up on behalf of others in needs. What happens if you see a burglary or a mugging, but it's not you being robbed, "I'm alright Jack, pull the ladder up"?

For those with reading comprehension skills, I'll add some bold to give you a helping hand.

The BBC has received a formal complaint over an allegedly racist remark made by Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson during one of the show's Burma specials.

A law firm acting on behalf of actor Somi Guha, who appeared in 2006 sci-fi film Children of Men, has written to the BBC claiming Clarkson's use of the word "slope" – which can be used as a derogatory term for people of Asian descent – contravened the Equality Act 2010.

Guha, who has also featured in The Bill, is seeking an apology and disciplinary action against Clarkson.

She's not asking for money or damages, she's standing up for others which appears to be an entirely alien concept to you.
On a serious note for a moment, a question. What compelled you to point out so vituperatively the different nuances and aspects of her/their demands and others' (seeming) conflation of the two elements. Are you just an autistic pedant or is it because it gave you the chance to point out your (apparently) more correct interpretation and so claim some intellectual high ground, needlessley. Sad...

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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FwdConvert said:
And you don't have to think you have a right to sue someone, demand they publicly prostrate themselves in faux forgiveness or close down a show loved by millions because you are don't like something.
She's not suing Clarkson, and I've ran out of ways of trying to make that clear, and anyone can ask anyone else for an apology.




FwdConvert

305 posts

123 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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TheEnd said:
She's not suing Clarkson, and I've ran out of ways of trying to make that clear, and anyone can ask anyone else for an apology.
Could you please apologise, publicly, here, for your caustic comments on some of us and our reading skills. And your indefensible use of 'ran'. Thanking you...

Agrilla

834 posts

184 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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BJG1 said:
I don't know how "bad" a term it is so can't really comment. If he'd been stood next to an armour suit and said "there's a in this armour" lifted up the grill on the helmet to reveal a grinning Chinese man what would the reaction be? It's the same joke IMO, assuming "slope" and "" are similarly offensive. In my example, I don't see much wrong with it other than it's not that funny.
Similarly if a person of colour had been shown amongst some piles of wood, but I'm pretty sure that would be considered unacceptable. Though it's such an obvious attention seeking ploy to generate more publicity, it's just a bit pathetic.

They will be asked to apologise, and they will, and next series they'll pick on a new group to faux offend.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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Nope.

You have the right to ask that, (not sure why you ever felt you didn't), but you aren't going to get one.

Just to be clear now, can you confirm you understand she isn't suing anyone for damages?

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

158 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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If you watch the footage on the DM, it's pretty obvious that the scene has been staged - the camera angles and positioning are too perfect for it to be an accident. Worse still, Clarkson does a 'hand to mouth' gesture when he says it - a classic body language gaffe when you're saying something deceitful and you want to hide it - and then Hammond does a perfect giveaway - he points towards the wrong side of the bridge when saying it's higher.

So, whether they simply waited for the bloke to arrive (unlikely because shooting schedules don't allow for standing around waiting for MoP's to arrive on cue), or he was asked to do it (in which case he's a witness and they'll almost certainly have his details for model release etc) it looks like Clarkson may have just cost the BBC a lot of money for trying to be just that little bit too clever…

Just because the suit is for £1m, doesn't mean that's what they'll get. Somebody will get hauled over the coals for this and lose their job, but it won't of course be Clarkson, more likely the director.





FwdConvert

305 posts

123 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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"Mop... mop! HE CALLED ME A MOP. Apologise, now. I'll sue."

dandarez

13,293 posts

284 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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Grumfutock said:
We used to live in a world of humour. Where did it go?
Down the slope?

Watch how you ski.
Which makes me think that commentators on winter sports programmes will now be pondering how to refer to the slopes (plural)?

Bloody mad world.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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It's almost a shame there's not more money to be made in being racist, seems that the whole of the UK is and its about our only booming product here.

andy_s

19,405 posts

260 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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I'm offended too - where do you sign up for the free money?