UKIP - The Future - Volume 2
Discussion
pcvdriver said:
TKF said:
A question for UKIPHers. Let's say we get an in/out referendum and the public votes to stay in.
What next for UKIP?
....What next for Kippers North of the Border? Yet another round of lost deposits? That'll certainly use up some unspent allowance cash won't it?What next for UKIP?
WinstonWolf said:
pcvdriver said:
TKF said:
A question for UKIPHers. Let's say we get an in/out referendum and the public votes to stay in.
What next for UKIP?
....What next for Kippers North of the Border? Yet another round of lost deposits? That'll certainly use up some unspent allowance cash won't it?What next for UKIP?
pcvdriver said:
....What next for Kippers North of the Border? Yet another round of lost deposits? That'll certainly use up some unspent allowance cash won't it?
I'll be voting for them for 3 reasons1 it will really annoy you
2 I don't like windmills
3 it will really annoy you
I know this technically is 2 reasons but it is quite a good reason
So i thought it was worth mentioning twice
steveT350C said:
Surprised not more discussion about these billboard posters on the various UKIP focused threads here.
The MSM seem to be all over them like a rash; the 'racist' label being liberally applied like E45 emollient, oiling the anti UKIP machine.
shhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell them that.... they might stop. The MSM seem to be all over them like a rash; the 'racist' label being liberally applied like E45 emollient, oiling the anti UKIP machine.
mrpurple said:
steveT350C said:
Surprised not more discussion about these billboard posters on the various UKIP focused threads here.
The MSM seem to be all over them like a rash; the 'racist' label being liberally applied like E45 emollient, oiling the anti UKIP machine.
shhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell them that.... they might stop. The MSM seem to be all over them like a rash; the 'racist' label being liberally applied like E45 emollient, oiling the anti UKIP machine.
Meanwhile Dave promises to get control of our borders and bring immigration down to tens of thousands, or has he given up on that, I forget, he gives and and blows like a reed in the wind on so many things.
But in respect of control of our borders.
Flagship borders IT scheme will not measure immigration, ministers admit
Some highlights from the text.
But in respect of control of our borders.
Flagship borders IT scheme will not measure immigration, ministers admit
Some highlights from the text.
Daily Telegraph said:
Home Office's £1.2 billion 'eBorders' project is powerless to provide sufficient data on levels of migration, say ministers
The Government’s flagship border security system cannot be used to measure immigration levels because border guards are banned from asking passengers how long they intend to stay in Britain, ministers have admitted.
The Home Office has revealed that its beleaguered eBorders project, which is expected to cost the taxpayer £1.2 billion, will provide “insufficient” data on migrant levels.
It also highlighted how European Union rules prohibit immigration officers from asking EU residents about their travel plans - making it impossible to build a full picture of net migration.
It added that the eBorders system cannot be used to replace the existing method for estimating net migration, known as the International Passenger Survey, which MPs have said is “not fit for purpose”.
He added: “Anyone coming into our country should be obliged to answer any questions that officials wish to ask, within reason. The freedom of movement principle undermines our authority to do that.”
“The eBorders programme has cost the taxpayer hundreds of millions of pounds, taken more than a decade and now we know that a key original objective will never be achieved. The public have been badly let down. (comment:-so it's both Labour's and Tories' fault then)
(Comment- meanwhile hypocrisy from Labour) :-David Hanson, the shadow immigration minister, said: “For ministers to admit that their new borders system will not even allow them to estimate immigration is a sign of their abject failure.
“It is central to an effective immigration system that we are able to count people into the country and know when they should have left the UK.
“Theresa May and her ministers have scrapped the eBorders programme at huge cost to the UK taxpayer with no thought to what to put in its place - once again they are failing to take the effective steps needed to strengthen our borders while being obsessed with a net migration target they fail to enforce and won’t meet.”
And people want to continue to support idiots who commission and supervise stuff like this, time and time and time again.The Government’s flagship border security system cannot be used to measure immigration levels because border guards are banned from asking passengers how long they intend to stay in Britain, ministers have admitted.
The Home Office has revealed that its beleaguered eBorders project, which is expected to cost the taxpayer £1.2 billion, will provide “insufficient” data on migrant levels.
It also highlighted how European Union rules prohibit immigration officers from asking EU residents about their travel plans - making it impossible to build a full picture of net migration.
It added that the eBorders system cannot be used to replace the existing method for estimating net migration, known as the International Passenger Survey, which MPs have said is “not fit for purpose”.
He added: “Anyone coming into our country should be obliged to answer any questions that officials wish to ask, within reason. The freedom of movement principle undermines our authority to do that.”
“The eBorders programme has cost the taxpayer hundreds of millions of pounds, taken more than a decade and now we know that a key original objective will never be achieved. The public have been badly let down. (comment:-so it's both Labour's and Tories' fault then)
(Comment- meanwhile hypocrisy from Labour) :-David Hanson, the shadow immigration minister, said: “For ministers to admit that their new borders system will not even allow them to estimate immigration is a sign of their abject failure.
“It is central to an effective immigration system that we are able to count people into the country and know when they should have left the UK.
“Theresa May and her ministers have scrapped the eBorders programme at huge cost to the UK taxpayer with no thought to what to put in its place - once again they are failing to take the effective steps needed to strengthen our borders while being obsessed with a net migration target they fail to enforce and won’t meet.”
Guam said:
But wouldn't that make CMD "Racist"? 
And how about Labour, if they admit there is an issue does that also make them Racist? What to do what do, that only leaves Cleggy and his party of nonce protectors?
Careful Guam, you'll have people complaining to the moderators for simply telling it how it is. Soft little cry babies. And how about Labour, if they admit there is an issue does that also make them Racist? What to do what do, that only leaves Cleggy and his party of nonce protectors?'Ere, Farage has said today that the only reason he employs a German secretary is that only German secretaries can do the sort of hours and the level of workmanship his job demands... Pretty racist sort of thing to say if you ask him, hinting that he thinks the Germans to be some kind of superior race...
Whatever next from the despicable s
t bag?
Whatever next from the despicable s
t bag?FredClogs said:
'Ere, Farage has said today that the only reason he employs a German secretary is that only German secretaries can do the sort of hours and the level of workmanship his job demands... Pretty racist sort of thing to say if you ask him, hinting that he thinks the Germans to be some kind of superior race...
Whatever next from the despicable st bag?
Nothing like miss quoting, what he said was because she is his wife she can work on things with him late into the night and for that reason she is the best person for the job. But hey let's not let facts get in the way of a good smear. Whatever next from the despicable s
t bag?FredClogs said:
'Ere, Farage has said today that the only reason he employs a German secretary is that only German secretaries can do the sort of hours and the level of workmanship his job demands... Pretty racist sort of thing to say if you ask him, hinting that he thinks the Germans to be some kind of superior race...
Whatever next from the despicable st bag?
Interesting. Do you have a source?Whatever next from the despicable s
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