UKIP - The Future - Volume 2

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TKF

6,232 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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The commission is elected by the MEPs who are in turn elected by us to vote on our behalf. Not saying that's right or wrong, just pointing out the inadequacies in your repeated statement.

btw those posters showing the votes for women/elephants are sloppy. The names aren't consistent between the two. However, importantly, the votes are correct and checked against votewatch.eu

They don't vote against every issue btw. But they did vote against sluts, sorry women, getting equal pay. Anyone care to comment on that?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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TKF said:
The commission is elected by the MEPs who are in turn elected by us to vote on our behalf. Not saying that's right or wrong, just pointing out the inadequacies in your repeated statement.

btw those posters showing the votes for women/elephants are sloppy. The names aren't consistent between the two. However, importantly, the votes are correct and checked against votewatch.eu

They don't vote against every issue btw. But they did vote against sluts, sorry women, getting equal pay. Anyone care to comment on that?
How do you or I remove a commissioner that we are unhappy with?

HonestIago

1,719 posts

187 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Nick Robinson's interview with Farage was absolutely pathetic. The funny thing is the MSM still don't realise that the more they demonise/insult/patronise UKIP, the more people flock to them! laugh

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Gaz. said:
FredClogs said:
guff
Just go away and waste someone else's time.
RACIST


hehe

TKF

6,232 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
How do you or I remove a commissioner that we are unhappy with?
By voting for an MEP who votes on your behalf. How do you or I remove a prime minister that we are unhappy with?

Any comment on why UKIP MEPs voted against pay for women? Or why they hate elephants so much?

FiF

44,116 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
TKF said:
The commission is elected by the MEPs who are in turn elected by us to vote on our behalf. Not saying that's right or wrong, just pointing out the inadequacies in your repeated statement.
How do you or I remove a commissioner that we are unhappy with?
What TheKirbyFake fails to mention is that the role of the European Parliament in this is merely another rubber stamping exercise of another set of carefully chosen candidates who are submitted for the position without any real choice or opposition candidates, speaking practically about how it's actually done.

As pointed out frequently an examination of what democracy is and what passes for it in EU affairs shows a massive deficit which the Lisbon treaty was supposed to correct but effectively achieved little.

The fake fails.

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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don't be a billie. Emotive cherry picking like all good propaganda.

UKIP MEPS do not support the EU Commissioners as they (UKIP MEPS) stand for individual country (i.e. the UK) legislation.

What is so hard to understand?

what else did they abstain from/vote against? I doubt they supported the enormously wasteful CAP either, why not show this?



TKF

6,232 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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FiF said:
What TheKirbyFake fails to mention is that the role of the European Parliament in this is merely another rubber stamping exercise of another set of carefully chosen candidates who are submitted for the position without any real choice or opposition candidates, speaking practically about how it's actually done.

As pointed out frequently an examination of what democracy is and what passes for it in EU affairs shows a massive deficit which the Lisbon treaty was supposed to correct but effectively achieved little.

The fake fails.
Nobody voted for Gordon Brown to become Prime Minister

TKF

6,232 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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NicD said:
don't be a billie. Emotive cherry picking like all good propaganda.

what else did they abstain from/vote against? I doubt they supported the enormously wasteful CAP either, why not show this?
Because that's what their party stands for. They're obviously going to vote against EU waste. It's not worth mentioning.

Them voting against equal pay for women isn't "propaganda" FFS!

FiF

44,116 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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TKF said:
Nobody voted for Gordon Brown to become Prime Minister
And that's your best answer is it.

Fake epic fail 2.

On your way.

TKF

6,232 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Guam said:
I don't think he realised what he did there smile
Just explaining that the commission is elected by MEPs, not unelected as is oft repeated.

So, this issue of UKIP MEPs voting against ending animal cruelty and equal rights for women, any comment or just more ad hom attacks?

santona1937

736 posts

131 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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given that in the guardian article some 80% of UKIP supporters think that the pay gap is too large, and that businesses are not being run for long term benefits to the workers or communities, could UKIP be the next Hard Left Party, the voice of the traditional working class family that is no longer represented by Labour?

HonestIago

1,719 posts

187 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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TKF said:
Just explaining that the commission is elected by MEPs, not unelected as is oft repeated.

So, this issue of UKIP MEPs voting against ending animal cruelty and equal rights for women, any comment or just more ad hom attacks?
Hilarious.

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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santona1937 said:
given that in the guardian article some 80% of UKIP supporters think that the pay gap is too large, and that businesses are not being run for long term benefits to the workers or communities, could UKIP be the next Hard Left Party, the voice of the traditional working class family that is no longer represented by Labour?
forget those ridiculous class war labels

I vote for common sense and someone not in the pockets of the amoral rich, the self interested unions or the deluded 'nice with a cause'.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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NicD said:
I vote for common sense and someone not in the pockets of the amoral rich, the self interested unions or the deluded 'nice with a cause'.
Yet you will happily be in the pocket of Farage, who is amoral, rich and self interested?

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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10 Pence Short said:
Yet you will happily be in the pocket of Farage, who is amoral, rich and self interested?
can you please rename yourself to onebrainshort or stop this rubbish

Farage may be rich (I only know he is not poor) but that doesn't invalidate what I wrote

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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TKF said:
The commission is elected by the MEPs
What makes you say that?

Commissioners are appointed by the member states. They are not elected.





NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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fraid so, and look at the rubbish that results - Ashton, Mandelson and on and on

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Guam said:
Are you suggesting NICD is a paid shill for Farage (in the pocket)?
No.

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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10 Pence Short said:
Guam said:
Are you suggesting NICD is a paid shill for Farage (in the pocket)?
No.
I am not even a member of a party (never have been)

BUT I made a small donation last week as I truly believe that Britain is broken.
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