UKIP - The Future - Volume 2

[Tony 1234]

I wonder how many illegal immigrants Zod has living down his road>>>>>not one I'd guess

[Digga]

The narrative here belies the "vote UKIP, get Labour" theory: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/only-one-i...

If the article is to be believed, the changing demographic of voters is naturally causing a shift in some areas, from Conservative to Labour.

I saw the headline 'fact' that "only one in five white Britons votes for Labour" in the Sun Times a few weeks back and was astonished.

[Zod]

Tony 1234 said:

I wonder how many illegal immigrants Zod has living down his road>>>>>not one I'd guess

Lots of immigrants. All legal, I expect. You are, however, never more than a few hundred yards from a council estate in London, so I'm sure there are quite a few nearby.

How many do you have? How do they affect your daily life?

[Zod]

Guam said:

I did rather Hope Zod would have gone to the Aston do at Burghley House and showed up at the dinner at the George, shame I didn't find him, would have loved to have had this discussion over a few glasses of Pino collapso

Would love to have and I do like the George (although the bedrooms are a bit tired). At the time it was planned, I expected to be busy this weekend. In the end, I wasn't.

[Einion Yrth]

Guam said:

Zod said:

Would love to have and I do like the George (although the bedrooms are a bit tired). At the time it was planned, I expected to be busy this weekend. In the end, I wasn't.

Missed a great Do

I used to drink in the George when I was at school, strange to think of you two as frequenters of the place.

[Zod]

Einion Yrth said:

Guam said:

Zod said:

Would love to have and I do like the George (although the bedrooms are a bit tired). At the time it was planned, I expected to be busy this weekend. In the end, I wasn't.

Missed a great Do

I used to drink in the George when I was at school, strange to think of you two as frequenters of the place.

Family friends lived in Stamford for years (in one of those lovely Georgian terraces), so I've known it since childhood.

[FiF]

Ukip might not help Labour into power but it could keep Clegg there

[Axionknight]

Clegg needs to keep his seat for that to happen, doesn't he?

[Scuffers]

FiF said:

Ukip might not help Labour into power but it could keep Clegg there

So, having figured out that vote UKIP get Labour is not working, is this the next tack?

[FiF]

This found to be amusing and see it on here so often. Ok it's about twitter but ignore that slight irrelevance.



http://hopisen.com/?p=6361

[steveT350C]

Guido would call Doncaster Miliband’s ‘backyard’, but given the Labour leader barely spends any time there, he will stick with ‘Ed’s constituency’. Either way UKIP are in the ascendency in Ed’s constituency, as proved by Thursday’s stunning Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council by-election that saw a 20.5% swing away from Labour in Edenthorpe.

http://order-order.com/2014/07/28/ukip-steal-counc...

MSM not picked up on this yet.

[Einion Yrth]

Guam said:

How funny would that be if they took Eds seat and Cleggs at a GE,

Zod and co should be rooting for UKIP in those seats

UKIP won't get Hallam, it's mostly Student Gwant types, they'll probably go labour. Funnily enough it used to be a Con seat but the last incumbent was such an ahole that no one would vote for him eventually.

[FiF]

Hallam results graph


Could be a 3 way marginal possibly?

[Zod]

Guam said:

steveT350C said:

Guido would call Doncaster Miliband’s ‘backyard’, but given the Labour leader barely spends any time there, he will stick with ‘Ed’s constituency’. Either way UKIP are in the ascendency in Ed’s constituency, as proved by Thursday’s stunning Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council by-election that saw a 20.5% swing away from Labour in Edenthorpe.

http://order-order.com/2014/07/28/ukip-steal-counc...

MSM not picked up on this yet.

How funny would that be if they took Eds seat and Cleggs at a GE,

Zod and co should be rooting for UKIP in those seats

i would be delighted to see Clegg removed. The idea of that man holding the balance of power is a revolting one.

[Art0ir]

I see Cameron and Milliband are trying to out do eachother on the immigration front today, bloody racists.

[FiF]

On the perennial "Vote UKIP get Miliband" cry aiming to create FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) seems as if that might not be that effective in all cases.

From Ashcroft's recent poll, Mike Smithson www.politicalbetting.com drew this.




Vote UKIP get a LAB government might not be the compelling general election message that CON campaigners think it is.

[Zod]

Guam said:

Art0ir said:

I see Cameron and Milliband are trying to out do eachother on the immigration front today, bloody racists.

Pretty consistent with what many of us have being saying for months, its not (and never was) as clear cut as ZOD and others were suggesting.

I posted an article yesterday, not my opinion, although I share that fear. Mike Ashley until he saw this shared it too. I am some way from being convinced that the fear is not real.

[McWigglebum4th]

FiF said:

On the perennial "Vote UKIP get Miliband" cry aiming to create FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) seems as if that might not be that effective in all cases.

From Ashcroft's recent poll, Mike Smithson www.politicalbetting.com drew this.




Vote UKIP get a LAB government might not be the compelling general election message that CON campaigners think it is.

there is only one reason they got that result is down to biased questions

Who can deny if they had an option for

"the bunch of idiots vanish in a puff of smoke never to be seen again"

We would have VERY different results

[Mr_B]

This was an interesting read regarding immigration benefits that often gets fought over.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25880373

[FiF]

McWigglebum4th said:

FiF said:

On the perennial "Vote UKIP get Miliband" cry aiming to create FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) seems as if that might not be that effective in all cases.

From Ashcroft's recent poll, Mike Smithson www.politicalbetting.com drew this.




Vote UKIP get a LAB government might not be the compelling general election message that CON campaigners think it is.

there is only one reason they got that result is down to biased questions

Who can deny if they had an option for

"the bunch of idiots vanish in a puff of smoke never to be seen again"

We would have VERY different results

Not sure where you get biased questions from.

Follow the links to the full tables for the Ashcroft poll and see table 13.

Selectable options were the most likely.

Yes there could have been options to pick unlikely things such as LD -UKIP coalition or even a majority govt by either of those, or even an option for Ed Balls to be beamed up by alien lizards and given a good probing. Ain't going to happen and just creates irrelevant noise.

So a fair question imo.