UKIP - The Future - Volume 2

[HonestIago]

longblackcoat said:

HonestIago said:

longblackcoat said:

B. He's got as much chance of being elected as a UKIP MP as I have of being the first dog in space

Fancy another bet?!

Yep. Same terms?

Yes that'll do fine.

Just to re-cap:

Bet 1 - UKIP to win Boston & Skegness in 2015 GE
Bet 2 - Douglas Carswell to win Clacton for UKIP in forthcoming by-election

£50 to my charity of choice from the loser riding on each bet.

[Alex]

Carswell will be the next UKIP leader when Farage steps down.

[Mermaid]

"Bet 2 - Douglas Carswell to win Clacton for UKIP in forthcoming by-election"


Would not wish to bet against that

[longblackcoat]

Mermaid said:

"Bet 2 - Douglas Carswell to win Clacton for UKIP in forthcoming by-election"


Would not wish to bet against that

Whereas I will, happily.

[FiF]

The thing to note about Douglas is that he really understands the demographics, the people and the issues of his constituency.

It frequently shocks me how little many MPs of all parties know/care about this.

[Alex]

Spectator said:

Douglas Carswell’s defection to Ukip is a serious blow to the Tory party. Unlike so many other defectors, Carswell is not off because he has an axe to grind. This isn’t about his personal prospects but policy.

What makes this defection all the more potent is that Carswell has been a major influence on contemporary Toryism. His Direct Democracy agenda is one of the more sizable parts of the whole Tory modernisation project and his Euroscepticism isn’t driven by some Pathé news view of Britain but by a view of how this country can succeed as a modern, free-trading nation. Indeed, the section in Carswell’s speech celebrating contemporary Britain is very Cameroon.

So, a Tory party that can’t keep Carswell in the fold has a serious problem. What compounds this for the Tories is that Carswell isn’t just defecting, he’s standing down to fight a by-election. This contest will highlight the divisions on the right and it’ll also likely result in Ukip’ first elected MP. Carswell is popular locally and the Tendring peninsula is a Ukip stronghold: in the Euros the party polled almost twice as many votes as the Tories.

If Carswell is returned to parliament as a Ukip MP, he’ll give the party a foothold in Westminster and the ability to stay in the news. He’ll also be a constant reminder of how divided the Tories are on Europe.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/08/i...

[steveT350C]

[Scuffers]

well PaddyPower have UKIP as favourites for Clacton at 1/4


Tory's at 10/3
Labour at 10/1
LibDem at 100/1

with a side bet of:

Douglas Carswell (UKIP) to win the seat in Clacton in both the upcoming by-election and the next general election at 8/15

[hidetheelephants]

Scuffers said:

well PaddyPower have UKIP as favourites for Clacton at 1/4


Tory's at 10/3
Labour at 10/1
LibDem at 100/1

with a side bet of:

Douglas Carswell (UKIP) to win the seat in Clacton in both the upcoming by-election and the next general election at 8/15

Cameron must be stting himself if the bookies are calling it that strongly; barring acts of god it's hard to see them turning those numbers around.

[Zod]

Cameron should have temoved the whip from Carswell ages ago. He is arrogant, disloyal and self-serving.

If he were honest and had any guts, he would resign and face a by-election.

Edited by Zod on Thursday 28th August 21:06

[Alex]

Zod said:

Cameron should have temoved the whip from Carswell ages ago. He is arrogant, disloyal and self-serving.

If he were honest and had any guts, he would resign and face a by-election.

Edited by Zod on Thursday 28th August 21:06

Er, he is.

[chris watton]

Alex said:

Zod said:

Cameron should have temoved the whip from Carswell ages ago. He is arrogant, disloyal and self-serving.

If he were honest and had any guts, he would resign and face a by-election.

Edited by Zod on Thursday 28th August 21:06

Er, he is.

The local Cameroons cannot be happy.....

[FiF]

Alex said:

Zod said:

Cameron should have temoved the whip from Carswell ages ago. He is arrogant, disloyal and self-serving.

If he were honest and had any guts, he would resign and face a by-election.

Edited by Zod on Thursday 28th August 21:06

Er, he is.

That's one of the funnier posts on the thread. Sooooo out of touch it could almost have come from a career politician.

[0a]

Brilliant!

[dandarez]

chris watton said:

Alex said:

Zod said:

Cameron should have temoved the whip from Carswell ages ago. He is arrogant, disloyal and self-serving.

If he were honest and had any guts, he would resign and face a by-election.

Edited by Zod on Thursday 28th August 21:06

Er, he is.

The local Cameroons cannot be happy.....

Best one to date! Even after editing too!

[dandarez]

Scuffers said:

longblackcoat said:

A. He's not a UKIP MP

based on what? technically, until the by-election, he is

longblackcoat said:

B. He's got as much chance of being elected as a UKIP MP as I have of being the first dog in space

better start training then! (although your a few years behind Laika (1957)

It gets better. How old are some of these anti-Kippers?

[Zod]

FiF said:

Alex said:

Zod said:

Cameron should have temoved the whip from Carswell ages ago. He is arrogant, disloyal and self-serving.

If he were honest and had any guts, he would resign and face a by-election.

Edited by Zod on Thursday 28th August 21:06

Er, he is.

That's one of the funnier posts on the thread. Sooooo out of touch it could almost have come from a career politician.

I'm in the wilds on North Yorkshire with very intermittent reception. I had only seen the initial news when I posted.

At lest he has that sense of honour.

[Zod]

dandarez said:

Scuffers said:

longblackcoat said:

A. He's not a UKIP MP

based on what? technically, until the by-election, he is

longblackcoat said:

B. He's got as much chance of being elected as a UKIP MP as I have of being the first dog in space

better start training then! (although your a few years behind Laika (1957)

It gets better. How old are some of these anti-Kippers?

nowhere near as old as the average Kipper.

[Zod]

Look, I missed his resignation. If I have anything at all today , it's GPRS and slow.

[Art0ir]

Zod said:

Look, I missed his resignation. If I have anything at all today , it's GPRS and slow.

That's fair enough, but I think it was that mixed with the evident seething anger that made it really funny.