UKIP - The Future - Volume 2

[Timsta]

LordGrover said:

Volume III beckons...

And a perfect time to start it too.

[WinstonWolf]

The only downside to that is FredCloggs will sneak back in

[don4l]

Guam said:

Timsta said:

And a perfect time to start it too.

Have I managed to get the 10,000th post on this joyous day?

[dandarez]

zygalski said:

dandarez said:

Breadvan is up early this morning commenting on the McCann thread... surprisingly quiet on this one and the by-election one.



UKIP 'is' The Future!

Well done.
Only need 4 more Tory defections in safe seats to catch up with Sinn Fein.

Well done.

Idiot.

[JF87]

Heywood & Middleton share of votes on a 36% turnout:



Yes, your boys really are hoovering up those Labour votes. Bring on the general election - and please PLEASE tell me UKIP haven't peaked too early!

[Kermit power]

BGARK said:

zygalski said:

BGARK said:

No we are not.

....and so sums up yer average kipper cost/benefit analysis of EU membership.

I am not a kipper, whatever that is. I am a business person who employs people and is a net contributor for our country, I base my view on experience and maths, not who I like or don't.

I also export products and employ "skilled" foreign workers.

Personalities and voting labour/tory "because my dad did" is a completely narrow minded viewpoint.

What do you do?

I don't understand business people (especially those who export) claiming they'd be better off outside the EU.

1. Assuming at least some of your exports go to the EU, how much of the current EU red tape will you still have to comply with anyway? Isn't it better to have the government part of legislating on that red tape than not?

2. If we weren't in the EU, how much bureaucracy in total do you think we could get rid of? Every non-EU developed nation I've been to seems to have developed vast swathes of the stuff over the last 40 years, so I don't think leaving the EU would take us back to the unfettered days of the Sixties. I think we'd just end up with home grown bureaucracy and red tape instead.

3. I can understand how individuals may feel their jobs are threatened by low pay immigrant workers coming in under EU freedom of movement laws, but as an employer, surely that just gives you access to a cheaper workforce, making your business more profitable? If we pulled out of the EU and sent all the Poles back home, wouldn't that just make you less competitive against companies still employing them on the continent?

[dandarez]

JF87 said:

Heywood & Middleton share of votes on a 36% turnout:



Yes, your boys really are hoovering up those Labour votes. Bring on the general election - and please PLEASE tell me UKIP haven't peaked too early!

Peaked?

You ain't seen anything yet!

William Hill has just plummeted the odds of UKIP being part of a possible coalition at the next GE from 25% to 6%.

Voters on the edges will now realise they 'can' vote Ukip.
We've had enough, it's that simple.

Farage has just said the Westminster class would not be able to recover from this.
“You’re out of touch guys,” he said when asked what message his party’s success sends to Westminster.

“It is too late,” he said when asked what the other parties should do.

“We have a career political class of college kids who have never had jobs in their lives with absolutely no connection to ordinary people and how they are struggling. We need new people. We need change, real change.”

I'm 100% behind that ...and now proven, I'm very far from being alone!

[eybic]

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