Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5

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Rollin

6,085 posts

245 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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NoNeed said:
pcvdriver said:
It's not a case of enumerating the many decisions, but more the fact of the very principle that we currently have to ask to do so from Westminster, that does not sit well with me. So I welcome an independent Scotland that is free from any such encumbrances.
But you are in favour of a currency union!!!


You do know that would involve a joint monetary policy don't you. You know where limits are set on spending and borrowing and other stuff such as interest rates.

That would involve seeking permission form the other if you want to operate outside of those set limits no matter how good the cause.

This is why I don't think there would ever be a currency union as I don't believe Westminster would like a small neighbouring country no matter how friendly to be deciding it's monetary policies, it rejected Europe's attempt at the same thing and they are far more valuable to the UK than what Scotland would be.

But back to the point, you may find that Westminster could interfere even more with a union that what they bother to now, how is that independence? And how would you be free if there was a union?
Exactly.

Why would the UK accept a currency union with Scotland? It would just allow Scottish politicians to continue to blame Westminster for any Scottish problems.

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Well drop it then and fk up westminister
I can see how your mind works now Wiggly, you're just a nasty little minded individual, who will stoop at nothing to stir the proverbial, aren't you? You should be made to lick the spoon when it's all over.....
We're not trying to achieve independence in order to "fk up Westminster" to utilise such infragrant, yet colourful prose of yours......merely in order to aspire to having a better run country.
If the SNP hadn't been doing such a Sterling job since taking power, they would not be getting the benefit of the doubt in any future elections, by my good self.
I am not a party member, or even supporter of the SNP, they are merely the bunch I distrust least out of all the charlatans who currently seek to be returned to office.

barryrs

4,389 posts

223 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I agree the SNP are doing a sterling job on marketing - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/15_04_1...

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Wombat3 said:
Spot on - Scotland may well not have voted for a Tory Gov't - but then the South East didn't vote for 13 years of the idiots Bliar & Brooon...
There again, Scotland IS a country in its own right - The Sarf-East isn't...... even though they have more than enough people to fill one.......but perhaps too many to be crammed into such a postage stamp sized piece of real estate.

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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OpulentBob said:
OT.
Guys, why is the word "Viper" so associated with Scotland/Scots? There appears to be many PHers with that as a part of their username, and they appear to be mostly Scots. (ViperPict is the obvious one within this thread, but I've seen it elsewhere) Is there an old TV reference or something?
Might be that a few Scots members on here drive Vipers..... Just a thought!!! I used to drive buses, before moving on to pointing and shouting at drivers to get out of the depot on time. laugh

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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pcvdriver said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Well drop it then and fk up westminister
I can see how your mind works now Wiggly, you're just a nasty little minded individual, who will stoop at nothing to stir the proverbial, aren't you?
Be careful

people might mistake me for a YES campaigner

Blib

43,986 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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pcvdriver said:
Wombat3 said:
Spot on - Scotland may well not have voted for a Tory Gov't - but then the South East didn't vote for 13 years of the idiots Bliar & Brooon...
There again, Scotland IS a country in its own right - The Sarf-East isn't...... even though they have more than enough people to fill one.......but perhaps too many to be crammed into such a postage stamp sized piece of real estate.
If only we were a country in our own right. We'd be rid of the rump that holds us back. yes

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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barryrs said:
I agree the SNP are doing a sterling job on marketing - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/15_04_1...
They are yes, I'm sure the failings are because of Westminster.

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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simoid said:
When UKIP are negotiating Scotland's entry to the EU? hehe
They'll need some MPs first of all......over 306 to make a difference. There again, North of the border, they'll actually need to keep a deposit first of all....and there's about as much chance of that happening as Jimmy Savile being posthumously exonerated for all of his vile acts.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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pcvdriver said:
They'll need some MPs first of all......over 306 to make a difference. There again, North of the border, they'll actually need to keep a deposit first of all....and there's about as much chance of that happening as Jimmy Savile being posthumously exonerated for all of his vile acts.
I think you rather missed my point wink

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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pcvdriver said:
OpulentBob said:
OT.
Guys, why is the word "Viper" so associated with Scotland/Scots? There appears to be many PHers with that as a part of their username, and they appear to be mostly Scots. (ViperPict is the obvious one within this thread, but I've seen it elsewhere) Is there an old TV reference or something?
Might be that a few Scots members on here drive Vipers..... Just a thought!!! I used to drive buses, before moving on to pointing and shouting at drivers to get out of the depot on time. laugh
I 'ate you Butler! hehe

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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OpulentBob said:
I 'ate you Butler! hehe
snigger....... rofl ....actually nearly fell off my chair there.....

Gecko1978

9,683 posts

157 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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My point was together we are stronger not perfect but stronger. Seperate there will always
Be a weaker partner (according to evening standard today londons gdp is greater than twice gdp of scotland and wales combined) and in the event of a yes vote negociations will favour the stronger party.

why do some find that hard to understand. Scotland are being sold a lie example "14th richest nation in the world" versus being the sixth (except the posters don't tell you curently we are 6th). Its really ok to be independant (sorry wiggly) all the best to scotland if they choose that, but please understand what you are loosing and make sure the so called
Gains are true.

barryrs

4,389 posts

223 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Quiet here tonight.

Ah, I see the SNP political broadcast is on More4. smile

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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barryrs said:
Quiet here tonight.

Ah, I see the SNP political broadcast is on More4. smile
It must be because the debate has been divided between here and two similar threads scratchchin

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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barryrs said:
Quiet here tonight.

Ah, I see the SNP political broadcast is on More4. smile
Oh Barry, you're such a wit.....or half of it anyway at least......

eharding

13,676 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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pcvdriver said:
OpulentBob said:
I 'ate you Butler! hehe
snigger....... rofl ....actually nearly fell off my chair there.....


Pcvdriver, with McWiggle's (out of shot) teeth clamped firmly to his testicles on September 19th.


barryrs

4,389 posts

223 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Being an Englishman I had avoided that topic as it appers I'm not welcome in a Scottish forum.

Hmm where have I heard that before.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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pcvdriver said:
Oh Barry, you're such a wit.....or half of it anyway at least......
Fantasmagorical banter.

barryrs

4,389 posts

223 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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pcvdriver said:
Oh Barry, you're such a wit.....or half of it anyway at least......
Thanks pcv, that's high prase from someone who has articulated the benifits of scottish independence so well!

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