Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5
Discussion
Edinburger said:
Wow. Five volumes and some people still think this is all about hatred of the English.
Just, wow.
I don't think it's that. But that doesn't change the fact that the UK will put itself first over an independent Scotland and if that means the loss of Scottish jobs but a boost to ours, why wouldn't we do it?Just, wow.
Edinburger said:
Siscar said:
Why not? You have a nationalist campaign based in how much you hate us so why have any loyalty if that view turns out to be a majority?
Wow. Five volumes and some people still think this is all about hatred of the English. Just, wow.
The entire idea of independence is a massive "f
k You" to the rest of the UK which has really done quite well by Scotland over the last 300 years. Do we need to bring up Darien again? No? Thought not. Edinburger said:
Wow. Five volumes and some people still think this is all about hatred of the English.
Just, wow.
If it was a Yes your a different country - now unless rUK have 100% employment why would the Govt shop jobs to a different country? Do you think its sensible to pay for the services to another country while at the same time paying unemployment benefits to individuals who could and would love to do the work? Just, wow.
I'm a bit peeved that some of our ship orders are in Asia jobs here.
Edinburger said:
Siscar said:
Why not? You have a nationalist campaign based in how much you hate us so why have any loyalty if that view turns out to be a majority?
Wow. Five volumes and some people still think this is all about hatred of the English. Just, wow.
What is the plan if currency union isn't offered by rUK?
Wiggly startered a thread in the Scottish forum, it would appear there are a few of us worried enough by a Yes vote to look at moving away.
Such statements have been met from "he's just posturing, through to don't let the door hit your arse on the way out"
The urge to vote yes to spite them and leave grows larger.
Let them bask in the misery of their making while I watch from Canada.
Such statements have been met from "he's just posturing, through to don't let the door hit your arse on the way out"
The urge to vote yes to spite them and leave grows larger.
Let them bask in the misery of their making while I watch from Canada.
A.J.M said:
Wiggly startered a thread in the Scottish forum, it would appear there are a few of us worried enough by a Yes vote to look at moving away.
Such statements have been met from "he's just posturing, through to don't let the door hit your arse on the way out"
The urge to vote yes to spite them and leave grows larger.
Let them bask in the misery of their making while I watch from Canada.
Same hereSuch statements have been met from "he's just posturing, through to don't let the door hit your arse on the way out"
The urge to vote yes to spite them and leave grows larger.
Let them bask in the misery of their making while I watch from Canada.
I may ask if i can transfer to head office
I'll die laughing when independent Scotland ends up going to the IMF
McWigglebum4th said:
A.J.M said:
Wiggly startered a thread in the Scottish forum, it would appear there are a few of us worried enough by a Yes vote to look at moving away.
Such statements have been met from "he's just posturing, through to don't let the door hit your arse on the way out"
The urge to vote yes to spite them and leave grows larger.
Let them bask in the misery of their making while I watch from Canada.
Same hereSuch statements have been met from "he's just posturing, through to don't let the door hit your arse on the way out"
The urge to vote yes to spite them and leave grows larger.
Let them bask in the misery of their making while I watch from Canada.
I may ask if i can transfer to head office
I'll die laughing when independent Scotland ends up going to the IMF
Canada gives V8 engined Disco3's, lovely scenery and a more laid back life style, which given some current health issues would be very welcome..
Back in contact with my mates from Langley in BC. Unless the Yes campaign, i DO have a plan B..
A.J.M said:
My offer for Expat Scottish members for a Canadian curry meet stands..
Canada gives V8 engined Disco3's, lovely scenery and a more laid back life style, which given some current health issues would be very welcome..
Back in contact with my mates from Langley in BC. Unless the Yes campaign, i DO have a plan B..
I think i would get over the amount of points needed to move into canadaCanada gives V8 engined Disco3's, lovely scenery and a more laid back life style, which given some current health issues would be very welcome..
Back in contact with my mates from Langley in BC. Unless the Yes campaign, i DO have a plan B..
Edinburger said:
nellyleelephant said:
Yes, your Yes. It's what you want isn't it?
I would hope you lose some, and I don't mean than in a mean spirited way. I just hope our government would do it's best to pull as much as it could down south to help with our unemployment.
I'm afraid that in the eyes of the UK, we would have no more loyalty to you than we do to say, Egypt.
That's just not true. I would hope you lose some, and I don't mean than in a mean spirited way. I just hope our government would do it's best to pull as much as it could down south to help with our unemployment.
I'm afraid that in the eyes of the UK, we would have no more loyalty to you than we do to say, Egypt.
///ajd said:
Interesting. I wonder how prevalent this is now. Tangible damage to Scotland already. This is newsworthy you know, the media would love this story and others like it.
Not sure if it is just me, but I have noticed a change over the last few weeks on the BBC reporting of the Scottish Independence debate. It seems to be giving more prominence of late, with an emphasis very much on Salmond and Sturgeon, to the Yes campaign. I think it is unbalanced with the No campaign not seeming to be reported on the much the same degree and very rarely do you see a hard hitter from the Better Together camp being interviewed. It makes me wonder if the BBC are just trying too hard to be impartial.
Edinburger said:
Chlamydia said:
rich1231 said:
Interesting thing on the news last night. The SNP sing an anti English song at conferences. Nice.
Nothing new there unfortunately, they have pushed pro-independence songs onto their schools curriculum too.I can honestly say, hand on heart, that I've never heard of either of these.
PS It was tempting to add "Interesting thing in the UK for the last 307 years - an anti-Scottish line is added to the UK's national anthem. Nice."
t wants to try make political mileage out of it trying to make out it's only sung by Nats - It's sung by ALL Scots... If it was Flower of Scotland that was sung - then this thread is a load of pointless pish..... If it wasn't Flower of Scotland, then please enlighten us as to what was sung - so we will be able to accurately comment....pcvdriver said:
It was probably Flower of Scotland that was sung - a song that has been sung so many times year after year at the rugby without issue - until some stirring tt wants to try make political mileage out of it trying to make out it's only sung by Nats - It's sung by ALL Scots... If it was Flower of Scotland that was sung - then this thread is a load of pointless pish..... If it wasn't Flower of Scotland, then please enlighten us as to what was sung - so we will be able to accurately comment....
Can you pair really not just use google and find stuff for yourself?t wants to try make political mileage out of it trying to make out it's only sung by Nats - It's sung by ALL Scots... If it was Flower of Scotland that was sung - then this thread is a load of pointless pish..... If it wasn't Flower of Scotland, then please enlighten us as to what was sung - so we will be able to accurately comment....Other search engines are available.
This should start you off;
"One of the political songs on the Education Scotland website, which is designed to be used by both teachers and pupils, is The Freedom Come All Ye, by the late Scots poet Hamish Henderson. It is regarded as the unofficial anthem of the independence movement and was recently sung en masse at the Yes Scotland rally on Calton Hill.
Another is Both Sides of the Tweed, a protest song against the Treaty of Union which was written by the Glaswegian folk singer Dick Gaughan after the 1979 Devolution Referendum.
On the website, Gaughan is quoted as saying: “The verses call for the recognition of Scotland’s right to sovereignty and the choruses argue against prejudice between our peoples.”
Two of Robert Burns’s most famous works – Scots Wha Hae, the official song of the SNP which is sung at the end of party conferences, and Sic a Parcel of Rogues – are also on display."
simoid said:
The anthem should be about the brave, handsome, intelligent, strong, etc Scots.
I think the idea is that a National Anthem should be a 5-minute heart-swelling, blood-thumping, throat-rasping, tear-jerking musical journey through your entire national soul....but what you've got there is the basis of a 10 second stylophone jingle.
eharding said:
I think the idea is that a National Anthem should be a 5-minute heart-swelling, blood-thumping, throat-rasping, tear-jerking musical journey through your entire national soul.
...but what you've got there is the basis of a 10 second stylophone jingle.
"...but what you've got there is the basis of a 10 second stylophone jingle.
Towering in gallant fame
Scotland my mountain hame
High may your proud standards gloriously wave
Land o' the high endeavour
Land o' the shining river
land o' my heart forever
Scotland the brave"
Like that?
Aye. Exf
kingactly!simoid said:
eharding said:
I think the idea is that a National Anthem should be a 5-minute heart-swelling, blood-thumping, throat-rasping, tear-jerking musical journey through your entire national soul.
...but what you've got there is the basis of a 10 second stylophone jingle.
"...but what you've got there is the basis of a 10 second stylophone jingle.
Towering in gallant fame
Scotland my mountain hame
High may your proud standards gloriously wave
Land o' the high endeavour
Land o' the shining river
land o' my heart forever
Scotland the brave"
Like that?
Aye. Exf
kingactly!kers" into the chorus. Never understood this, makes them sound like small minded morons with a big anti-english chip on their shoulders.......Scotland the Brave is a far better song.
Edinburger said:
Wombat3 said:
You're right, its obviously complete rubbish that everybody but the SNP says that there won't be a currency union and Scotland won't just walk into an EU membership!! 
Your commentary on this whole debate becomes more of a joke on a daily basis the more you try & drag the focus to inconsequential claptrap & ignore the fundamentals.
Hang on a second master debater, we each contribute different quantities, different frequencies, and different qualities and aspects to this debate. And for good reason too. Your commentary on this whole debate becomes more of a joke on a daily basis the more you try & drag the focus to inconsequential claptrap & ignore the fundamentals.
te.And Oh the wit & repartee, oh my aching sides - "master debater" - I bet you were really pleased with that one. I'll guarantee you were even giggling to yourself as you typed it.
That I can remember you have contributed absolutely nothing of any substance to this debate. Meanwhile you twist, turn, deflect & avoid providing any backup to any of the stupid claims you make & post links solely to pro-Yes articles because they are "Interesting" . And yet not a serious comment about any of the major issues - currency, EU, defence etc. etc.
Meanwhile your arse must look like a hedgehog's back from all the splinters you'll have got from sitting on your "fence".
You are another one who genuinely deserves Scottish independence.
You are as transparent as glass matey (and just about as interesting!)
DuncsGTi said:
Finally sorted out my registration to vote today
My postal vote will be sent to my new address in the south of England as a registered service voter.
It strikes me as a bit of a fix that the scots probably most likely to vote no (in the respect that they are taking full advantage of a free labour market by living and working throughout the UK) are the ones who are unable to have a say on this.
However, in the unlikely event of a yes, and the ensuing economic crisis, I might take the opportunity to buy myself a nice wee holiday house in the highlands at a knock down price.
Wiggly might sell you his....he's doing a bunk - so he keeps telling us My postal vote will be sent to my new address in the south of England as a registered service voter.
It strikes me as a bit of a fix that the scots probably most likely to vote no (in the respect that they are taking full advantage of a free labour market by living and working throughout the UK) are the ones who are unable to have a say on this.
However, in the unlikely event of a yes, and the ensuing economic crisis, I might take the opportunity to buy myself a nice wee holiday house in the highlands at a knock down price
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