Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5

[Borghetto]

fluffnik said:

You are indeed an unpleasant and libellous sort...

This coming from a man who claims to financially support the most odious faux reverend and his poisonous website.

[Troubleatmill]

Borghetto said:

fluffnik said:

You are indeed an unpleasant and libellous sort...

This coming from a man who claims to financially support the most odious faux reverend and his poisonous website.

And have remarkably offensive views on certain elements of the community. Neanderthals I believe was the phrase used.
( FWIW - I think they are totally irrelevant to today's society )
But the hatred does seem to be deeply ingrained with our Fluff.

[Risky Shift]

Gaspode said:

I suspect that the reason that NHS budgets are increasing whilst individual departments are suffering year on year real terms cuts is not unrelated to the massive interest payments that the trusts have to make to pay for the PFI contracts they've been stitched up with, together with the hugely increasing legal costs they have to bear due to compensation claims.

The problem there is that it wasn't just individual departments, it was every single one. We did have a nice, shiny PFI hospital (that was a political lash-up rather than the best option for the service and the patients) to pay for though.

[Welshbeef]

Two months today is it?
Average of all polls and trends showing a decline since March.


So what are SNP going to do to make the step change in polling? Clearly the message they have been using so far isn't strong enough to win over the 50%. Two months to go something needs to change else it will be a similar result to 1970's which would be damming for SNP

[jjones]

Welshbeef said:

So what are SNP going to do to make the step change in polling?

Back to back showings of Braveheart that or let the English vote.

[McWigglebum4th]

jjones said:

Welshbeef said:

So what are SNP going to do to make the step change in polling?

Back to back showings of Braveheart that or let the English vote.

Or fiddle the results

I have my money on a 110% voter turnout

[simoid]

Welshbeef said:

Two months today is it?
Average of all polls and trends showing a decline since March.


So what are SNP going to do to make the step change in polling? Clearly the message they have been using so far isn't strong enough to win over the 50%. Two months to go something needs to change else it will be a similar result to 1970's which would be damming for SNP

A result similar to the 1970s? I hope fking not.

Yes got 51.62% of the vote in 1979.

[Big Rod]

McWigglebum4th said:

Or fiddle the results

I have my money on a 110% voter turnout

This thought has seriously crossed my mind.

(Was a short trip of course!)

[bullies180]

after a yes vote we are all going to be best friends, apparently us English being occupying oppressing tory scum will be forgiven and we wont punish the scots for leaving the union and will glady pump even more money into the scottish economy.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/english-won-t-puni...

[NomduJour]

McWigglebum4th said:

I have my money on a 110% voter turnout

"I’ve been told of people who took themselves off the electoral register in 1991 to avoid paying the poll tax, re-registering so they can vote in September"

[simoid]

bullies180 said:

after a yes vote we are all going to be best friends, apparently us English being occupying oppressing tory scum will be forgiven and we wont punish the scots for leaving the union and will glady pump even more money into the scottish economy.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/english-won-t-puni...

"Scotland is keen to establish closer links across these islands. The Scottish Government has a national economic forum which meets twice a year. It brings together government, business, the third sector, the wider public sector and the trade unions. We have promised that the first forum to be held after the referendum in September will focus on rebalancinng the economy, including co-operation with the north of England."

Another ever closer union, Salmond?

Shirley if Scotland leaves the UK, ceterus paribus, London and the south east influence policy still more, since they are a greater proportion of the remaining UK's economy and population?

[simoid]

The Liverpool mayor called it: Salmond is a divisive politician, trying to make it "them and us" against Westminster.

Btw - Fluff, we're still waiting to see your "evidence" that London is a leech on the Scottish economy, or whatever it was.

[blinkythefish]

just got this posted on facebook:

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2014/07/17/dinner-wit...

Basically: Vote yes or we will spend the rest of eternity blaming you no voters for every percieved "wrong" decree from Westminster.

[simoid]

blinkythefish said:

just got this posted on facebook:

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2014/07/17/dinner-wit...

Basically: Vote yes or we will spend the rest of eternity blaming you no voters for every percieved "wrong" decree from Westminster.

What a fking .

So anything that I disagree with after a yes vote, I can blame it on yes voters? Fack off.

Totally irresponsible publication and totally devoid of any democratic maturity. It was very threatening in tone too, suggesting that no voters will want to remain anonymous - how ominous.

Disgusting piece of writing. Whether you're yes, no or in between.

[anonymous-user]

"I have a certain amount of sympathy with that. I am sure Alex Salmond does too. After all, he didn’t expect the Labour Party in Great Britain and in Scotland to collapse quite so comprehensively as they did in 2010 and 2011, and thus make possible the election of a majority SNP administration at Holyrood that was bound – trapped even – by history and manifesto commitments into calling a referendum that was not at the time of their choosing."

So, even the referendum was a trap.

Victims indeed.

[A.J.M]

blinkythefish said:

just got this posted on facebook:

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2014/07/17/dinner-wit...

Basically: Vote yes or we will spend the rest of eternity blaming you no voters for every percieved "wrong" decree from Westminster.

So by that basis.

If a yes vote wins and all the stuff everyone's been warning about, comes true.

Can we no voters spend the rest of time blaming you for everything that holyrood does is "wrong"?

[simoid]

A.J.M said:

So by that basis.

If a yes vote wins and all the stuff everyone's been warning about, comes true.

Can we no voters spend the rest of time blaming you for everything that holyrood does is "wrong"?

Well, yes. But this yes voter had decided that it's going to be a no vote in September, so he's setting out his stall for the rest of his life: being a moany, chip-on-shouldered ignoramus.

Unless of course we all vote yes to avoid these plebs, and plunge the country into oblivion

[///ajd]

Alex said:

"Mr Salmond told his audience there was no “grievance” among the people of England about the debate going on in Scotland."

Er, think again. How arrogant.

[simoid]

///ajd said:

Alex said:

"Mr Salmond told his audience there was no “grievance” among the people of England about the debate going on in Scotland."

Er, think again. How arrogant.

Of course Salmond would say that:

If people agree - all good.
If people disagree - "ah well, that's anti Scottish sentiment, you should vote Yes. Look at how the English aren't looking out for us."

[Borghetto]

///ajd said:

Alex said:

"Mr Salmond told his audience there was no “grievance” among the people of England about the debate going on in Scotland."

Er, think again. How arrogant.

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Fat hypocrite - gets on his high horse when anyone not living in Scotland dares voice an opinion about Scotland or the Scots, then decides that England has no grievance - how the feck would he know.