Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5

[simoid]

And now the SNP are getting on the bandwagon, listing reasons the UK is better together:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...



"It stated: "Scotland offers safe and secure supplies of electricity and gas and can assist the rest of the UK in meeting its renewable energy targets.""

[Edinburger]

Strong words from Lord Robertson on Scottish independence being "cataclysmic".

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-polit...

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

Just been informed that a yes scotland billboard in Bo'ness has been 'amended' to include the mantra "Scotland is British vote no".

Don't let Wiggley hear about this vandalism

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

Strong words from Lord Robertson on Scottish independence being "cataclysmic".

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-polit...

Advantages of voting no	advantages of voting yes
growing by the day	what were they again?

[Edinburger]

Good speech which Mr Salmond is delivering today: http://news.scotland.gov.uk/Speeches-Briefings/Ale...

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

Advantages of voting no	advantages of voting yes
growing by the day	what were they again?

Lots on both sides, simoid.

[McWigglebum4th]

simoid said:

Advantages of voting no	advantages of voting yes
growing by the day	No more DVLA!!

EFA

[barryrs]

Edinburger said:

Good speech which Mr Salmond is delivering today: http://news.scotland.gov.uk/Speeches-Briefings/Ale...

Obnoxious Buffoon said:

I just adore that concept. 10 million in the census, 30 million claimed ancestry. It means there’s 20 million people across the United States who perhaps aren’t officially Scottish, but wannabe Scottish! Has there ever been a greater compliment ever paid to any nation?

So as far as we’re concerned, with due deference to the official census figures of the United States, we’ll settle for the 30 million.

That sounds like SNP economic policy to me

[AstonZagato]

simoid said:

And now the SNP are getting on the bandwagon, listing reasons the UK is better together:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...



"It stated: "Scotland offers safe and secure supplies of electricity and gas and can assist the rest of the UK in meeting its renewable energy targets.""

Sub-text is "we need the subsidies for rUK to make our renewables sector viable".

[A.J.M]

I'm curious.

With this talk and polls over the currency union, and people claiming its good/bad.
Can someone explain to me in basic terms.

What it is, how it will affect the rUK and how it will affect Scotland.

Should one happen. I have my own opinion and idea what it is, but looking for others opinions.

From people on either side or sitting on the fence.

[donutsina911]

Edinburger said:

Good speech which Mr Salmond is delivering today: http://news.scotland.gov.uk/Speeches-Briefings/Ale...

Please explain why it's a 'good speech'?

[confused_buyer]

It has been a repeated mistake by the UK over the last few decades to assume that because we speak the same language, have a lot of history in common and have some common ancestors that the US will somehow treat us differently. This has never been the case and the US has, rightly in my opinion, always acted in their own interests regardless of whether to the detriment to the UK or not. It is amazing that some UK politcians still seem to be surprised and offended when this happens.

Likewise anyone in Scotland would be a complete idiot to think that just because a few million Americans claim Scottish decendancy, have a few wee drams on Burns night and buy a few overpriced Kilts from tourist traps on the Royal Mile the USA will cut Scotland any slack whatsoever and won't completely shaft them if it is in the USA's interests to do so.

[Borghetto]

President De Gaulle once said "Countries only have interests not friends". It would do no harm for those in the UK and particularly Scotland to bear this in mind.

[Wombat3]

A.J.M said:

I'm curious.

With this talk and polls over the currency union, and people claiming its good/bad.
Can someone explain to me in basic terms.

What it is, how it will affect the rUK and how it will affect Scotland.

Should one happen. I have my own opinion and idea what it is, but looking for others opinions.

From people on either side or sitting on the fence.

Its quite simple, its not about sharing banknotes, its about the fact that the rUK (taxpayer) would be on the hook to bail them out if they fk up their economy. Why would the rUK want to be on the hook to bail out a foreign country?

[confused_buyer]

Wombat3 said:

Its quite simple, its not about sharing banknotes, its about the fact that the rUK (taxpayer) would be on the hook to bail them out if they fk up their economy. Why would the rUK want to be on the hook to bail out a foreign country?

And the reverse of that is that Scotland's budget would need approval from the RUK. (Technically, of course, the UK's budget would need approval from Scotland in the same way that Germany needs approval from Malta for its budget, i.e. not at all in reality).

So, for Scotland, you have the rediculous situation of a parliament they used to have representation in now approving their budget but they now have no representation in at all. You would also end up with Scotland blaming all their ills still on the nasty English because they insist their numbers add up and they can't run a massive defecit.

There is no reason for England, Wales or NI to want it and, to be honest, there is no reason for Scotland to want it either apart from that they can't think of anything else.

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Advantages of voting no	advantages of voting yes
growing by the day	what were they again?

Lots on both sides, simoid.

Give us a few of the important ones to you, then.

[simoid]

McWigglebum4th said:

EFA

Thought the SNP plan was to replicate the DVLA? Ho hum.

[McWigglebum4th]

simoid said:

McWigglebum4th said:

EFA

Thought the SNP plan was to replicate the DVLA? Ho hum.

That would take decades of training and investment to reach such levels of uselessness

[Siscar]

simoid said:

McWigglebum4th said:

EFA

Thought the SNP plan was to replicate the DVLA? Ho hum.

Wow, you think the SNP have a plan on things like that?

I suspect they'd want the rUK to keep doing it for them.

[simoid]

http://www.holyrood.com/2013/12/white-paper-pledge...

A sort of bite sized white paper says a Scottish equivalent "would eventually replace the DVLA". Whatever that means.