Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5

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Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Dont forget to call the Union Flag a butchers apron, referring to Scotland as the victim in an abusive relationship also gains bonus groats.

FourWheelDrift

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88,473 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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confused_buyer said:
Therefore, all SNP spokespeople have been ordered to say even more stupid and propestrous things
"If you vote yes, we'll give you a free Parker Pen"


FourWheelDrift

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88,473 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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budgie smuggler said:
article said:
“We’re keeping sterling,” Salmond said. “Why talk about plans B, C, D, E and F when plan A is the best proposition?”
Also perchance because you don't have a credible plan B or it would be a guaranteed vote loser? I honestly thought at this point they'd be giving some detailed proposals out. What a mug!
Plan B - Sneak out whilst no one is watching wearing a ginger beard.


Funk

26,263 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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If it weren't so serious, it'd be comical.

The SNP have no clue what they're doing and are looking more ridiculous and absurd by the day.

A.J.M

7,900 posts

186 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Guam.

You also need to mention getting the government we vote for, every time.
Also about taxing the rich, oil funds, higher public spending, bedroom tax, saving the devolved Scottish NHS from Tory cuts and how it's all common sense.

Casual mention about keeping ship building would be good as well.

A.J.M

7,900 posts

186 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Hey,

If your going to be a cyber nat, trolling swine, you have to do a convincing job of it!

It also lets the rest of us play Bingo with your chapters and see who wins. biggrin

For bonus points, say the union HAS to end as it does none of the countries any favours and is an outdated idea that is best replaced by republics..

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Guam said:
Jeez guy I had only dedicated 5-6 brain cells to making up this st, keeping feeding suggestions I might have to put at least a dozen or so under stress. smile
Don't do that, you'll greatly increase the intellectual power of the Yes campaign silly

ralphrj

3,523 posts

191 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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simoid said:
In practical terms, a currency union is a daft idea if you want independence. A foreign country setting your budgets and tax rates.
I might be wrong but I don't think currency union alone would result in the rUK setting iScotland budgets and tax rates.

Budgets and tax rates are part of fiscal policy which would not be the same in the rUK as iScotland.

The eurozone countries are in a currency union but not a fiscal union. This is the flaw in the Euro as although they all share the same currency and central bank each member country can set their own fiscal policy. This is was a major cause of the euro crisis as economically weak countries like Greece and Portugal were suddenly able to borrow very cheaply and indulged in massive spending until everyone woke up and realised it was unsustainable.

The fact that iScotland wants currency union but no fiscal union with the rUK is exactly why the rUK will never agree to it. Why repeat the same mistakes as the eurozone in a new sterlingzone?

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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ralphrj said:
simoid said:
In practical terms, a currency union is a daft idea if you want independence. A foreign country setting your budgets and tax rates.
I might be wrong but I don't think currency union alone would result in the rUK setting iScotland budgets and tax rates.

Budgets and tax rates are part of fiscal policy which would not be the same in the rUK as iScotland.

The eurozone countries are in a currency union but not a fiscal union. This is the flaw in the Euro as although they all share the same currency and central bank each member country can set their own fiscal policy. This is was a major cause of the euro crisis as economically weak countries like Greece and Portugal were suddenly able to borrow very cheaply and indulged in massive spending until everyone woke up and realised it was unsustainable.

The fact that iScotland wants currency union but no fiscal union with the rUK is exactly why the rUK will never agree to it. Why repeat the same mistakes as the eurozone in a new sterlingzone?
Totally agree. To clarify, the bold is what I meant, in practical terms smile

If Scotland wants a currency union, the rUK would want to oversee their policies to minimise the risk of damage to the UK economy. Hypothetically, curreny union would have to involve fiscal union since the "rUK" wouldn't allow its existence otherwise.

And then the Nats are back behing square one with governments we really had no influence over.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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"We contribute our fair share to the Lottery, perhaps slightly more, so we will seek for that to continue."


What exactly is that statement supposed to deliver?
On average Scottish gamble more than the rUK
We realise being outside of the UK the lottery draws top prize would be a tenth of the current prizes
We want more money from rUK no logical reason behind it but be nice give it to us.



Actually could the UK lottery legally continue to operate over iScotland and rUK?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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rofl
Brilliant

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Welshbeef said:
Actually could the UK lottery legally continue to operate over iScotland and rUK?
For a lotto ticket to be valid - it has to be bought in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11572581

From around 2010 - buying from anywhere outside the UK (or Isle of Man) invalidates the ticket.

A Scottish person visiting rUK could buy a ticket and win (like any other foreign national can).....but Scottish people will not be able to buy Lotto tickets from Scotland (unless the rules are changed).

Under the current T&Cs - iScotland would have no more a legitimate claim to National Lottery funding than France does - just because some its nationals happen to buy Lotto tickets whilst visiting.

Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 23 July 14:09

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Moonhawk said:
Welshbeef said:
Actually could the UK lottery legally continue to operate over iScotland and rUK?
For a lotto ticket to be valid - it has to be bought in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11572581

From around 2010 - buying from anywhere outside the UK (or Isle of Man) invalidates the ticket.

A Scottish person visiting rUK could buy a ticket and win (like any other foreign national can).....but Scottish people will not be able to buy Lotto tickets from Scotland (unless the rules are changed).

Under the current T&Cs - iScotland would have no more a legitimate claim to National Lottery funding than France does - just because some its nationals happen to buy Lotto tickets whilst visiting.

Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 23 July 14:09
How about online ticket purchasing? Or is the site restricted to within UK IP addresses?

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Welshbeef said:
How about online ticket purchasing? Or is the site restricted to within UK IP addresses?
Yep - also invalid if bought outside the UK.

https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/help/w...

GetCarter

29,371 posts

279 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Sky News said:
Scotland's sports minister has told Sky News she expects British taxpayers and the National Lottery to continue funding athletes competing in a Scottish Olympic team in the event of a "Yes" vote in the independence referendum.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Naughty, photoshopping English bassa...

GetCarter said:
Sky News said:
Scotland's sports minister has told Sky News she expects British taxpayers and the National Lottery to continue funding athletes competing in a Scottish Olympic team in the event of a "Yes" vote in the independence referendum.
http://goo.gl/maps/8mnUz

Unless of course you've been up there and painted it in. wink

Edited by Einion Yrth on Wednesday 23 July 15:04

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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The names on the sign behind. Are they real? Kylesku? Tongue?!

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Tongue certainly is, yes.

GetCarter

29,371 posts

279 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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OpulentBob said:
The names on the sign behind. Are they real? Kylesku? Tongue?!
I had lunch in Kylesku today.

Check out the bridge > http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kylesku/kyle...

ETA... nobody pronounces it correctly... according to the very local, it's Kyle (as in pile), and sku (as in poo). Kyle Sku, but with the emphasis on the second syllable.. so.. KyleSKU. Add a Highland accent and you'll have it.

As you were.


Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 23 July 15:38

FourWheelDrift

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88,473 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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GetCarter said:
I had lunch in Kylesku today.

Check out the bridge > http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/kylesku/kyle...
Best to give the ferry a miss then.

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