Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5

[Edinburger]

Moonhawk said:

Perhaps - but how does that relate to your specific claim of "Another day and another collection of anti-Scottish posts".

I haven't seen anything posted today that has been blatantly (or even subtly) "anti-Scottish" - most of it seems to be continuing dig at the nationalists who foamed at the mouth because the union flag is being displayed at the commonwealth games.

lol I wasn't foaming at the mouth about the UJ at the games - just that it's wrong and inappropriate.

[Edinburger]

Einion Yrth said:

He's probably on his phone and can't go back that far.

Very good.

[Moonhawk]

Edinburger said:

lol I wasn't foaming at the mouth about the UJ at the games - just that it's wrong and inappropriate.

I didn't say you - I said "the nationalists who foamed at the mouth" (and so didn't even include all nationalists in that statement).

If you aren't a nationalist and/or didn't foam at the mouth over the union flag - then you are clearly excluded from my statement.

You may feel it's wrong or inappropriate - but the organisers don't (nor the organisers from any other commonwealth games). Very few people seem to have an issue with it - the only ones who do, appear to have a pro-yes agenda/axe to grind.

Edited by Moonhawk on Monday 28th July 14:43

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

It would be interesting to see what our SNP government have done in terms of research on this front, since they are aiming to have net immigration to fund public services. Have they considered the effects of a significant minority considering emigration because of their key policy?

Probably not.

By definition net immigration offsets any emigration.

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

It would be interesting to see what our SNP government have done in terms of research on this front, since they are aiming to have net immigration to fund public services. Have they considered the effects of a significant minority considering emigration because of their key policy?

Probably not.

By definition net immigration offsets any emigration.

I know that. You've missed my point. As per usual.

The SNP have a habit of saying things, making assertions, blurting out numbers, etc, without actually backing them up with logic or evidence.

My question was/is: have the considered that a yes vote could adversely affect the growth of Scotland's population because people here would have a higher propensity to emigrate?

I think they probably haven't. I think they've probably thought emigration will continue at pre-referendum levels and said "we'll need a few more folk to come in, then Boab's her uncle".

[Borghetto]

Edinburger said:

Moonhawk said:

Perhaps - but how does that relate to your specific claim of "Another day and another collection of anti-Scottish posts".

I haven't seen anything posted today that has been blatantly (or even subtly) "anti-Scottish" - most of it seems to be continuing dig at the nationalists who foamed at the mouth because the union flag is being displayed at the commonwealth games.

lol I wasn't foaming at the mouth about the UJ at the games - just that it's wrong and inappropriate.

Let's be fair to Burger, he has only recently had his miraculous conversion to nationalism. I seem to remember he was very firmly on the fence until he read the tablet from the mount given to Saint 'eck. Now he's as batst crazy as Fluff.

[Edinburger]

Borghetto said:

Let's be fair to Burger, he has only recently had his miraculous conversion to nationalism. I seem to remember he was very firmly on the fence until he read the tablet from the mount given to Saint 'eck. Now he's as batst crazy as Fluff.

Not "on the fence" but undecided.

As I still am. Genuinely.

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

Not "on the fence" but undecided.

As I still am. Genuinely.

I'm fairly certain you'll vote yes.

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

I know that. You've missed my point. As per usual.

The SNP have a habit of saying things, making assertions, blurting out numbers, etc, without actually backing them up with logic or evidence.

My question was/is: have the considered that a yes vote could adversely affect the growth of Scotland's population because people here would have a higher propensity to emigrate?

I think they probably haven't. I think they've probably thought emigration...

I don't think you or I will ever know for sure.

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

Not "on the fence" but undecided.

As I still am. Genuinely.

BULLst

How can any sane person look at the YES campaign and say "Yep they are making a sensible case"


Unless you just want to have "Scotland" stamped across the top of your passport and give a fk what it costs

[Einion Yrth]

I can see the desire for independence, I can see that ultimately it would be possible but with the best will in the world the road from here to there would be a rocky one and if I were in the position of the Scots I certainly couldn't trust the "parcel o' gobstes" that is the current crop of nationalist politicians to lead anyone from one end to the other without massive suffering for the Scots.

[WinstonWolf]

Talking of the games, how are Scotland doing against England?

[voyds9]

Edinburger said:

By definition net immigration offsets any emigration.

Quite, but how does that affect contribution to economy.

If you lose a high net contributor and replace them with 2 at basic wage that wont help balance the books.

[Big Rod]

voyds9 said:

Quite, but how does that affect contribution to economy.

If you lose a high net contributor and replace them with 2 at basic wage that wont help balance the books.

But it'll make it fairer!

[simoid]

WinstonWolf said:

Talking of the games, how are Scotland doing against England?

We're contributing a greater proportion of medal winners than our population share

[WinstonWolf]

simoid said:

WinstonWolf said:

Talking of the games, how are Scotland doing against England?

We're contributing a greater proportion of medal winners than our population share

A very Salmond answer for 'losing'.

[Einion Yrth]

WinstonWolf said:

simoid said:

WinstonWolf said:

Talking of the games, how are Scotland doing against England?

We're contributing a greater proportion of medal winners than our population share

A very Salmond answer for 'losing'.

Well if you must put it in such crass terms. The crims are "winning".

[Troubleatmill]

Edinburger said:

Not "on the fence" but undecided.

As I still am. Genuinely.

What information is missing that will make you vote YES?

What information is missing that will make you vote NO?

[mcdjl]

Edinburger said:

Not "on the fence" but undecided.

As I still am. Genuinely.

Whats the difference between "on the fence" and undecided? If i get accused of having a fence post up by bum its because I'm refusing/unable to pick a side in some debate or other.

[Moonhawk]

simoid said:

We're contributing a greater proportion of medal winners than our population share

The Scotland team are doing fantastic.

I actually do think that population should be taken into account when discussing medal performance.

When you see the medal tables for things like the Olympics - the performance of dominant countries like the US, Russia etc often belies the fantastic achievement of others nations.

When you consider population size (and therefore the potential talent pool) or GDP (giving an indication of the money available for spending on sports) - some nations are much more successful than the total medal tally gives them credit for.

http://www.medalspercapita.com/#golds-per-capita:2...