Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5
Discussion
Welshbeef said:
Some are claiming its not a vote for him or the SNP its the Indy county and then they can vote in which ever party be it SNP greens labour etc.
Whatever its working more and more are polling a yes
I still think the majority of Scots know the score. It IS a vote for Salmond and the SNP as they will lay the groundwork for a fledgling independent country and by the time a national referendum comes around the damage will be done and the national impairment will be irreparable.Whatever its working more and more are polling a yes
bigkeeko said:
I still think the majority of Scots know the score. It IS a vote for Salmond and the SNP as they will lay the groundwork for a fledgling independent country and by the time a national referendum comes around the damage will be done and the national impairment will be irreparable.
In that case it is more worrying as the yes vote increases furtherWelshbeef said:
Whatever its working more and more are polling a yes
...and more polling No...http://whatscotlandthinks.org/questions/should-sco...
Big Rod said:
A.J.M said:
I have seen on the fb groups that a FOI request has shown the Scottish NHS has been using private contractors etc for the last 7 years at a cost of over £400M...
You got a link for that?https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/221705/resp...
Figures are
2007-08 £61.4m.
2008-09 £62.8m.
2009-10 £61.3m.
2010-11 £65m.
2011-12 £68.8m.
2012-13 £83.5m.
2013-14 £79.1m.
Which is £481.9m spent on private stuff...
Anyone got info on how much the rUK has spent on private care over the same period and able to work out if we are spending more or less per person on adding private care in.
GetCarter said:
Latest poll (yesterday) - No have 14 point lead, but Yes have gained several points in the past month (2 directly after the Commonwealth Games).
Yes would need every single undecided (14%) to vote for them to force a re-count.
A narrow "No" would not be good news for Scotland IMHO. The fishy party would continue their abusive ways and the bearers of the victim cards would feel even more abused while much of the commercial sector might look to getting out anyway.Yes would need every single undecided (14%) to vote for them to force a re-count.
Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 19th August 09:40
It's a s
te situation and no amount of fresh air will make it any better Tommy.Einion Yrth said:
GetCarter said:
Latest poll (yesterday) - No have 14 point lead, but Yes have gained several points in the past month (2 directly after the Commonwealth Games).
Yes would need every single undecided (14%) to vote for them to force a re-count.
A narrow "No" would not be good news for Scotland IMHO. The fishy party would continue their abusive ways and the bearers of the victim cards would feel even more abused while much of the commercial sector might look to getting out anyway.Yes would need every single undecided (14%) to vote for them to force a re-count.
Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 19th August 09:40
It's a s
te situation and no amount of fresh air will make it any better Tommy.Einion Yrth said:
A narrow "No" would not be good news for Scotland IMHO. The fishy party would continue their abusive ways and the bearers of the victim cards would feel even more abused while much of the commercial sector might look to getting out anyway.
It's a ste situation and no amount of fresh air will make it any better Tommy.
That's assuming SNP stay in power lets say its a narrow No but SNP are voted out of majority May 2015 - suddenly there can be no further progress on a referendum part deux. Infact provided they don't retain that majority then its a no goerIt's a s
te situation and no amount of fresh air will make it any better Tommy.Welshbeef said:
That's assuming SNP stay in power lets say its a narrow No but SNP are voted out of majority May 2015 - suddenly there can be no further progress on a referendum part deux. Infact provided they don't retain that majority then its a no goer
Yes but a narrow no and the sane vote split several ways, why wouldn't the SNP retain their majority?Einion Yrth said:
Yes but a narrow no and the sane vote split several ways, why wouldn't the SNP retain their majority?
It seems that one of the reasons they got in was voter apathy. The 22% of the vote they got was possibly a peak. When the other 50% of Scottish eligible voters decide to turn up, and it seems likely the silent majority will turn up - they will vote against the SNP in droves. It seems that most of Scotland will hold the conduct of this referendum against the SNP - free prescription carrot dangling won't change that.///ajd said:
It seems that one of the reasons they got in was voter apathy. The 22% of the vote they got was possibly a peak. When the other 50% of Scottish eligible voters decide to turn up, and it seems likely the silent majority will turn up - they will vote against the SNP in droves. It seems that most of Scotland will hold the conduct of this referendum against the SNP - free prescription carrot dangling won't change that.
It is odd that we keep hearing from the Yes camp how Scottish people want to have a say over their own affairs - yet turnout for the 2010 UK general election was much higher than for Scotland's own general election (63.8% vs 50.0%).I would have expected this to be very much the other way around. I can understand voter apathy playing a part if Scottish voters think:
"what is the point in voting - the English being in a majority are going to get their way regardless of how we vote - we may as well not bother"
........but that argument surely doesn't apply with a vote held entirely in Scotland. It seems counter-intuitive that a Scottish election would get a much lower turnout if what the Yes campaign are saying is true.
Einion Yrth said:
GetCarter said:
Latest poll (yesterday) - No have 14 point lead, but Yes have gained several points in the past month (2 directly after the Commonwealth Games).
Yes would need every single undecided (14%) to vote for them to force a re-count.
A narrow "No" would not be good news for Scotland IMHO. The fishy party would continue their abusive ways and the bearers of the victim cards would feel even more abused while much of the commercial sector might look to getting out anyway.Yes would need every single undecided (14%) to vote for them to force a re-count.
Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 19th August 09:40
It's a s
te situation and no amount of fresh air will make it any better Tommy.The SNP will have given a referendum as promised, and everyone else can shut up and get on with it.
el stovey said:
I think a narrow no vote would be great for Scotland. Scotland will likely get more devolved powers
already getting themel stovey said:
and in return England will stop Scottish (and Welsh) MPs voting on English only issues.
I doubt it, there appears to be no appetite to address the west lothian question in Westminster.el stovey said:
The SNP will have given a referendum as promised, and everyone else can shut up and get on with it.
I don't think they will, you know. We'll see.
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