Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5

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McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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BorkFactor said:
Grandad7184 said:
But I get the gut feeling there will be a yes vote.
I really hope not, the "no" camp are just much less vocal. Most people I know up here are in the no camp.
Seeing the common reaction from team guess upon finding a no voter is to tell them to fk off to England are you surprised we keep quiet.

Bradgate

2,826 posts

148 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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You have to admire the nationalists.

All the polling evidence says the outcome of this referendum is not in serious doubt, and that No will win comfortably.
Women voters, in particular, are less likely to vote for change.

Yet still the nationalists believe they will prevail, despite all the evidence. They insist that the polls are biased and the bookies are wrong.

Faith? Denial? Who knows.

What seems certain, however, is that they will have to deal with major disappointment on September 19th.

BorkFactor

7,266 posts

159 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Seeing the common reaction from team guess upon finding a no voter is to tell them to fk off to England are you surprised we keep quiet.
True.

Note how many more "Yes" signs are on lamp posts than "No" ones.

whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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GG89 said:
Most of the Yessers I know don't have a pot to piss in and there's no thought process involved, it's a case of things can't get any worse for them.
That's a good point.

They seem to be split between the underclass and some "academics" with a romanticised view of what would happen post a "yes" vote.

A toxic combination.

technodup

7,585 posts

131 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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"sovereign will of the Scottish people"... aaarrrggghhhh, fking stop it you .

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

166 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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BorkFactor said:
Note how many more "Yes" signs are on lamp posts than "No" ones.
I think the 'no' camp support just want to avoid a keyed car, or a smashed living room window... That's my excuse...

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Two pitifull 3rd rate wkers ,hope its a yes vote I never want another Darling or
Brown involved in UK politics.. Sad for years I thought Scotland was a strong and proud part of the united kingdom

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Is it me or were 80% of the audience questions from Yes voters?

Not very balanced.

Overall a shambles, first debate was more interesting. This just felt very tired.

Alex sum up "we are better" etc. Typical Nationalist.
Darling seemed nervous all night.

I'm surprised Alex is allowed to get away with the debt dodging. It is just insane.

andymadmak

14,609 posts

271 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Concensous in the Madmak house is that Salmond won that one, but only just. Whether he did enough to secure a yes vote is to be seen. My feeling is he did not.

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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The chair has been better than the first one.

Jawaman

271 posts

134 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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It will be interesting to see what a yes vote would ignite over here (Northern Ireland)

Other than that, what happens to the flag?

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

166 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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powerstroke said:
Sad for years I thought Scotland was a strong and proud part of the united kingdom
It is.

The repressed, 'Scotland-as-a-victim' rhetoric of the Nats is NOT representative of large swathes of Scottish public opinion here.

Matt..

3,604 posts

190 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Jawaman said:
Other than that, what happens to the flag?
The Union flag? It will not change.

Patrick Bateman

12,195 posts

175 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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What are the votes like with the different age groups?

I don't know many no voters around my age (I'm 25) but 'no' has lead every worthwhile poll around.

bigkeeko

1,370 posts

144 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Darling was a mumbling stuttering non entity tonight. Salmond dragged him into a slanging match and boxed clever. Anything that `might` have been a decent point from Darling, Salmond spoke over the top of him to conceal this from the audience, which appeared a bit bias on the Yes side.

Big Rod

6,200 posts

217 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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FamilyDub said:
I think the 'no' camp support just want to avoid a keyed car, or a smashed living room window... That's my excuse...
yes

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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bigkeeko said:
Darling was a mumbling stuttering non entity tonight. Salmond dragged him into a slanging match and boxed clever. Anything that `might` have been a decent point from Darling, Salmond spoke over the top of him to conceal this from the audience, which appeared a bit bias on the Yes side.
I think Darling was trying to conceal his anger and total exasperation with Salmond. I wouldn't have blamed him if he'd just walked over and kicked the interrupting tw*t in the sporran.


covmutley

3,029 posts

191 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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bigkeeko said:
Darling was a mumbling stuttering non entity tonight. Salmond dragged him into a slanging match and boxed clever. Anything that `might` have been a decent point from Darling, Salmond spoke over the top of him to conceal this from the audience, which appeared a bit bias on the Yes side.
I think that's a good summary, darling allowed himself to be dragged into party politics. Salmond just pointed to the bad things and darling can only offer 'more of the same'.

Salmond did much better tonight, but I still can't see how people can vote yes. A few weeks ago there was no plan B on currency, now there are 3!

Still, a member of the public on the news has just described the currency issue as 'admin' so perhaps it doesn't matter much??!!

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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I call it as a Salmond win for winning over the average Joe Public.

But - the world financial markets will be shaking their heads in horror.

A Yes vote means capital and talent flight is a certainty.

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

166 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Patrick Bateman said:
What are the votes like with the different age groups?

I don't know many no voters around my age (I'm 25) but 'no' has lead every worthwhile poll around.
I reckon the younger the demographic the more likely to be 'yes' oriented.
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