Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5
Discussion
Hearing Salmond go on about the increase in Yesvote in the recent Poll he was saying:
"The increase in registered voters are doing so to vote yes, and an increase in undecided voters whoe are voting yes and some No voters are obviously changing to yes!"
I had to stop myself tearing my radio out of the car in disgust at the blatant b
ks.
he has no idea how the people registering will vote, and saying No voters are now voting yes is just total ste.
He knows its a close run thing but people voting No and people voting |Yes are pretty set in their ways.
"The increase in registered voters are doing so to vote yes, and an increase in undecided voters whoe are voting yes and some No voters are obviously changing to yes!"
I had to stop myself tearing my radio out of the car in disgust at the blatant b
ks.he has no idea how the people registering will vote, and saying No voters are now voting yes is just total s
te.He knows its a close run thing but people voting No and people voting |Yes are pretty set in their ways.
doogz said:
GetCarter said:
You are right. There was a poll with age sex location profession a while back and men in their 30s in Glasgow were the most likely to vote yes. Teenagers and older women most likely to vote no. Amongst older folk, the more people earn, the more they are likely to vote no.
You think there's a direct correlation there between earnings and IQ/intelligence?S13_Alan said:
Think most people who would vote No will have already thought about what their plan is.
Personally I've already held off buying a house, and decided that in the event of a Yes vote, I simply won't be doing so. If I need to find somewhere (as I moved back here to live with my parents with the intention of getting a house of my own) I will rent, making sure all my savings are somewhere safe.
Then, if need be and it looks like leaving is the best choice there won't be much to prevent it besides finding a job. Already decided I'd quite like to live in Bristol as I stayed there for a good portion of last year and in every way it's better than Glasgow. Unfortunately I probably can't afford to be exactly where I'd like, but there will be a decent compromise to be had.
I quite fancy Bristol too. Spent about 9 months there a few years ago and really miss it.Personally I've already held off buying a house, and decided that in the event of a Yes vote, I simply won't be doing so. If I need to find somewhere (as I moved back here to live with my parents with the intention of getting a house of my own) I will rent, making sure all my savings are somewhere safe.
Then, if need be and it looks like leaving is the best choice there won't be much to prevent it besides finding a job. Already decided I'd quite like to live in Bristol as I stayed there for a good portion of last year and in every way it's better than Glasgow. Unfortunately I probably can't afford to be exactly where I'd like, but there will be a decent compromise to be had.
Big Rod said:
I quite fancy Bristol too. Spent about 9 months there a few years ago and really miss it.
Where did you stay? I had one of the flats bang next door to the SS Great Britain, it was fantastic to live down at the harbour! Loved being able to get the little ferry home from my work right to my doorstep haha 
S13_Alan said:
Where did you stay? I had one of the flats bang next door to the SS Great Britain, it was fantastic to live down at the harbour! Loved being able to get the little ferry home from my work right to my doorstep haha
I didn't stay in the centre of town. I worked up at Aztec West near the M4/M5 junction and rented a room in a cottage in Tockington. Got into town a few times and loved it and spent many a pleasant evening fishing off Portishead Pier.I'm still friends with my landlady and they guys I worked with.
Beware the cloudy Black Cat!! LOL
Wiggleyarse - is this a nasty BT supporter kicking a peaceful and innocent Yes supporter?
Works both ways.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
Works both ways.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
GetCarter said:
doogz said:
GetCarter said:
You are right. There was a poll with age sex location profession a while back and men in their 30s in Glasgow were the most likely to vote yes. Teenagers and older women most likely to vote no. Amongst older folk, the more people earn, the more they are likely to vote no.
You think there's a direct correlation there between earnings and IQ/intelligence?These characters will make up a good percentage of your Yes voters as sadly they make up a good chunk of our population and the majority will feel aggrieved at Mr `Out working with the nice car` as he is doing ok while they have made a Berkley Hunt of their life.
Don`t think for one minute these grudge filled people will pull their socks up and make an independent Scotland work. They`ll be looking to see what it offers them and complain when it doesn`t deliver.
Edited by bigkeeko on Tuesday 2nd September 13:52
McWigglebum4th said:
Pointless
It is like trying to explain algebra to a dog
They are just too stupid to understand
I see this as a measure of how dumb scotland actually is
And it looks like the answer is VERY
I am not welcome in my own country
You really are a horrible, nasty, closed minded, grumpy old bIt is like trying to explain algebra to a dog
They are just too stupid to understand
I see this as a measure of how dumb scotland actually is
And it looks like the answer is VERY
I am not welcome in my own country
d aren't you. Nearly 30K posts if bile and drivel.
bigkeeko said:
Don`t think for one minute these grudge filled people will pull their socks up and make an independent Scotland work. They`ll be looking to see what it offers them and complain when it doesn`t.
And from what I read on here they'll be the sole inhabitants, it doesn't bode well.Jeremy Vine had a chap on whos involved in the counting process, I think. I only caught the tail end of it.
From what I heard different areas will count locally and share results with a central team in Edinburgh. Those will be collated and published in entirety when the overall result is known. Expected to be 2-4 am on the 19th.
From what I heard different areas will count locally and share results with a central team in Edinburgh. Those will be collated and published in entirety when the overall result is known. Expected to be 2-4 am on the 19th.
bigkeeko said:
Take a walk through any town centre in Scotland during the day. You`ll see more trackie bottom/scuffed trainer types than you`d want to. The buggy with the farmfoods bags hanging off it with the fat thing smoking roll ups with her man with the teeth missing. Then you have the `never worked in his puff` guy with the walking stick. 10 yards down the road you have the `smackhead`, then further along another crowd of subsidy junkies that feel the world owes them something. Not forgetting Mr `I`m going for invalidity`, like it`s some kind of entitlement.
These characters will make up a good percentage of your Yes voters as sadly they make up a good chunk of our population and the majority will feel aggrieved at Mr `Out working with the nice car` as he is doing ok while they have made a Berkley Hunt of their life.
Don`t think for one minute these grudge filled people will pull their socks up and make an independent Scotland work. They`ll be looking to see what it offers them and complain when it doesn`t deliver.
These characters will make up a good percentage of your Yes voters as sadly they make up a good chunk of our population and the majority will feel aggrieved at Mr `Out working with the nice car` as he is doing ok while they have made a Berkley Hunt of their life.
Don`t think for one minute these grudge filled people will pull their socks up and make an independent Scotland work. They`ll be looking to see what it offers them and complain when it doesn`t deliver.
Edited by bigkeeko on Tuesday 2nd September 13:52
I'm so fed up with the Yes lies going unchallenged. They keep getting trotted out and the hard-of-thinking continue to believe them.
Case in point: "Scotland is one of the wealthiest countries in the world. More and more people are beginning to realise that a Yes vote is Scotland's one opportunity to make that enormous wealth work better for everybody who lives and works here, create more jobs here, and protect vital services such as the NHS from the damaging effects of Westminster privatisation."
Lies. Scotland is NOT one of the wealthiest countries in the world, it's running a £1bn/mo deficit and is only propped up by being part of the UK. Scotland does not have 'enormous wealth', the UK has enormous wealth of which Scotland benefits. Lies about currency have lead to declining investment, risk of capital flight and threats to default have already required the UK to calm the money markets by guaranteeing the debt. Jobs will be lost in their tens of thousands as a brain-drain commences and those with any sense make plans to leave in the event of a Yes. Skilled workers will follow opportunity. Vital services such as the NHS are ALREADY under Scottish control - if they're not how you'd like them already, you need to look at the SNP, not Westminster. As for the privatisation line, it's already been shown that Scotland has been flinging cash at the private sector and cooking the books to hide it.
The issue is that the mouth-breathing morons who are most likely to vote yes can't even begin to comprehend the complexities of reality in order to work out what is lies and what is not. Sadly the sound-bite is all they hear and it's clearly enough to influence them.
Independence isn't 'something to have a go at' or 'something that might be nice'. This will change the future of Scotland forever, there is no 'CTRL+Z'. Future generations will pay the price when it all goes very very badly wrong.
Case in point: "Scotland is one of the wealthiest countries in the world. More and more people are beginning to realise that a Yes vote is Scotland's one opportunity to make that enormous wealth work better for everybody who lives and works here, create more jobs here, and protect vital services such as the NHS from the damaging effects of Westminster privatisation."
Lies. Scotland is NOT one of the wealthiest countries in the world, it's running a £1bn/mo deficit and is only propped up by being part of the UK. Scotland does not have 'enormous wealth', the UK has enormous wealth of which Scotland benefits. Lies about currency have lead to declining investment, risk of capital flight and threats to default have already required the UK to calm the money markets by guaranteeing the debt. Jobs will be lost in their tens of thousands as a brain-drain commences and those with any sense make plans to leave in the event of a Yes. Skilled workers will follow opportunity. Vital services such as the NHS are ALREADY under Scottish control - if they're not how you'd like them already, you need to look at the SNP, not Westminster. As for the privatisation line, it's already been shown that Scotland has been flinging cash at the private sector and cooking the books to hide it.
The issue is that the mouth-breathing morons who are most likely to vote yes can't even begin to comprehend the complexities of reality in order to work out what is lies and what is not. Sadly the sound-bite is all they hear and it's clearly enough to influence them.
Independence isn't 'something to have a go at' or 'something that might be nice'. This will change the future of Scotland forever, there is no 'CTRL+Z'. Future generations will pay the price when it all goes very very badly wrong.
Edited by Funk on Tuesday 2nd September 14:01
Edinburger said:
You really are a horrible, nasty, closed minded, grumpy old bd aren't you.
Nearly 30K posts if bile and drivel.
Sounds like a nationalist to me.d aren't you. Nearly 30K posts if bile and drivel.
Still claiming to be a fence sitter you complete coward?
We have more than half of the Scottish population who havent bothered to get involved in any form of politics over the years. They have no interest in it and zero knowledge of government, economics etc. The SNP know this and are capitalising on it with their dumbed down, victimization campaign. It was fairly obvious this would get a fair amount of votes.
Is it a shame there are so many gullible people in Scotland or is the real shame the contempt the SNP treat the Scottish voters with?
MintyChris said:
Sounds like a nationalist to me.
Still claiming to be a fence sitter you complete coward?
We have more than half of the Scottish population who havent bothered to get involved in any form of politics over the years. They have no interest in it and zero knowledge of government, economics etc. The SNP know this and are capitalising on it with their dumbed down, victimization campaign. It was fairly obvious this would get a fair amount of votes.
Is it a shame there are so many gullible people in Scotland or is the real shame the contempt the SNP treat the Scottish voters with?
In the event of a Yes vote and the promises of all and sundry being made, I can't wait to see the backlash when it becomes apparent that the Yes voters utopia wont be forthcoming - hilarious.Still claiming to be a fence sitter you complete coward?
We have more than half of the Scottish population who havent bothered to get involved in any form of politics over the years. They have no interest in it and zero knowledge of government, economics etc. The SNP know this and are capitalising on it with their dumbed down, victimization campaign. It was fairly obvious this would get a fair amount of votes.
Is it a shame there are so many gullible people in Scotland or is the real shame the contempt the SNP treat the Scottish voters with?
Edinburger said:
Wiggleyarse - is this a nasty BT supporter kicking a peaceful and innocent Yes supporter?
Works both ways.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
Of course you being a blindfolded face painted arse can't see the baying mobWorks both ways.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
Axionknight said:
In the event of a Yes vote and the promises of all and sundry being made, I can't wait to see the backlash when it becomes apparent that the Yes voters utopia wont be forthcoming - hilarious.
That's the scary point.19th Sept: A Yes win announced
20th Sept: Negotiations start
25th Sept: Nats realise they are not going to get what they voted for
26-28th Sept: Nats Riot (Well it's the weekend, nothing else to do)
I think this sums up a lot of 'yes' voters very well, it was posted on Facebook in reply to a link relating to independence and went something along the lines of...
"All these companies supporting a 'No' vote should ask their employees what they think before making statements. The employees all want independence, the only reason the bosses want to stay in the UK is because of their connections and customers in England, so why are the companies supporting the 'No' campaign" (obviously the statement has been paraphrased, and the original wasn't properly punctuated, or spell-checked)
Surely what is in the best interests of the employees is to still have a job, and if you make cans of soup, 85% of which are sold to customers in England and Wales, then the continuity of your employment would be best served by not making a change which results in the vast majority of your customers ending up in a foreign country...
It amazes me that the BT campaign hasn't managed to shoot down most of the SNP's crazy claims for the drivel that they are, but I clearly the average intelligence of a large amount of the population doesn't lend itself to reasoned economic and political argument.
"All these companies supporting a 'No' vote should ask their employees what they think before making statements. The employees all want independence, the only reason the bosses want to stay in the UK is because of their connections and customers in England, so why are the companies supporting the 'No' campaign" (obviously the statement has been paraphrased, and the original wasn't properly punctuated, or spell-checked)
Surely what is in the best interests of the employees is to still have a job, and if you make cans of soup, 85% of which are sold to customers in England and Wales, then the continuity of your employment would be best served by not making a change which results in the vast majority of your customers ending up in a foreign country...
It amazes me that the BT campaign hasn't managed to shoot down most of the SNP's crazy claims for the drivel that they are, but I clearly the average intelligence of a large amount of the population doesn't lend itself to reasoned economic and political argument.
Guam said:
Edinburger said:
Wiggleyarse - is this a nasty BT supporter kicking a peaceful and innocent Yes supporter?
Works both ways.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
Deplorable, but is attempted theft of the guys Megaphone acceptable then?Works both ways.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
Note, the ambulance was cancelled before it arrived...
Mind you, when you have your beloved leader equating the egging and mob abuse of a No campaigner with someone in a car having the temerity to wave a No Thanks poster at Salmond ( he even describes it as a "road rage incident"
) then you certainly do get the measure of why the Yes side goes about its business in the way that it does ....... Edited by andymadmak on Tuesday 2nd September 14:23
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