Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5
Discussion
If I were a Yes voter I'd be furious Salmond has promised me EU membership yet by voting Yes its instant exit and unless a Scottish Groat or widget currency is created and used for many years stably then EU entry is not even a possibility.
I wonder if the EU held this out until then end to kill the debate off once and for all.
I wonder if the EU held this out until then end to kill the debate off once and for all.
Grumfutock said:
No doubt it will be a Tory/English plot to prevent them getting their god given freedom.
As is the other leaked news that Lloyds Group will be moving to England. No surprise really as they're mainly London based anyway but it will mean that what is left of Bank of Scotland will officially be English. 
Welshbeef said:
If I were a Yes voter I'd be furious Salmond has promised me EU membership yet by voting Yes its instant exit and unless a Scottish Groat or widget currency is created and used for many years stably then EU entry is not even a possibility.
I wonder if the EU held this out until then end to kill the debate off once and for all.
If you were a yes voter you wouldn't care or would dismiss it as English Tory lirsI wonder if the EU held this out until then end to kill the debate off once and for all.
In the latest debate and I assume in defence of the silly 'people in Scotland don't get the government they vote for' argument , the Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson has just said that it isn't "likely" the Tories will win the general election. 
Not watching but it's been mentioned on twitter - did she really say that?
I admire her honest but seriously, WTF.
Not watching but it's been mentioned on twitter - did she really say that?
I admire her honest but seriously, WTF.
BlackLabel said:
In the latest debate and I assume in defence of the silly 'people in Scotland don't get the government they vote for' argument , the Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson has just said that it isn't "likely" the Tories will win the general election.
Not watching but it's been mentioned on twitter - did she really say that?
I admire her honest but seriously, WTF.
I did laugh - she actually said "the polls don't say we'll win at the moment" - which is slightly differentNot watching but it's been mentioned on twitter - did she really say that?
I admire her honest but seriously, WTF.
The debate is wearing, but much more civilised than the last shambolic salmond/darling quagmire.
I liked the you guy who said "poverty doesn't stop at Berwick - why is rich Scotland keeping its oil and turning its back on helping all the UK".
Chlamydia said:
Two weeks to go and in my experience the biggest emotion from anyone I know who has an opinion on this is weariness. We're all just fed up with it - the SNP come out with utter garbage that is then parroted by their supporters, who must know they are talking rubbish but just are too blinded by fervour that they can't stop themselves.
I genuinely feel sorry for the sensible Scots who, through no fault of their own, will at best still be in the UK but a severely sectarian part of it, or at worst an independent country with a guarantee of rising bills, falling living standards, and failing services.
Poor sods.
Thanks, good to see all scots are not been labeled "brave hart nutters" the normal knees amongst us will have a lot of cleaning up to do once this has been put to bedI genuinely feel sorry for the sensible Scots who, through no fault of their own, will at best still be in the UK but a severely sectarian part of it, or at worst an independent country with a guarantee of rising bills, falling living standards, and failing services.
Poor sods.
There's too much here to check back whether this has been posted/commented on already, so, apologies in advance if that's the case.
However:
In the weekend papers, Andy Murray monotoned that in the event of a Yes vote, he would represent Scotland, not the UK/GB. However, in the event of a No vote, he would continue as-is.
Well, f
k the fking fk off then. Represent Scotland now, and if Scotland isn't quite good enough for you to gain an entry into major tournaments, well, that's just how the Highland Oat Cookie crumbles.
What really fks me off about all of this is that they (Scotland) seem to want to cherry-pick the good bits and bin the bits they don't fancy. It's bad enough as it is today. They want their own parliament, but not to bale from Westminster; to set their own policies but to take the "nice" UK ones. To fk off but to keep the pound. If you want your deep-fried Mars Bar and to eat it as well, that's fine, but don't think you can pig out on Victoria sponge at the same time.
However:
In the weekend papers, Andy Murray monotoned that in the event of a Yes vote, he would represent Scotland, not the UK/GB. However, in the event of a No vote, he would continue as-is.
Well, f
k the fking fk off then. Represent Scotland now, and if Scotland isn't quite good enough for you to gain an entry into major tournaments, well, that's just how the Highland Oat Cookie crumbles.What really f
ks me off about all of this is that they (Scotland) seem to want to cherry-pick the good bits and bin the bits they don't fancy. It's bad enough as it is today. They want their own parliament, but not to bale from Westminster; to set their own policies but to take the "nice" UK ones. To fk off but to keep the pound. If you want your deep-fried Mars Bar and to eat it as well, that's fine, but don't think you can pig out on Victoria sponge at the same time.CAPP0 said:
There's too much here to check back whether this has been posted/commented on already, so, apologies in advance if that's the case.
However:
In the weekend papers, Andy Murray monotoned that in the event of a Yes vote, he would represent Scotland, not the UK/GB. However, in the event of a No vote, he would continue as-is.
Well, fk the fking fk off then. Represent Scotland now, and if Scotland isn't quite good enough for you to gain an entry into major tournaments, well, that's just how the Highland Oat Cookie crumbles.
What really fks me off about all of this is that they (Scotland) seem to want to cherry-pick the good bits and bin the bits they don't fancy. It's bad enough as it is today. They want their own parliament, but not to bale from Westminster; to set their own policies but to take the "nice" UK ones. To fk off but to keep the pound. If you want your deep-fried Mars Bar and to eat it as well, that's fine, but don't think you can pig out on Victoria sponge at the same time.
To be fair to our protagonist - Many competitions are open to tennis pros of the UK. ( Not the individual countries ) However:
In the weekend papers, Andy Murray monotoned that in the event of a Yes vote, he would represent Scotland, not the UK/GB. However, in the event of a No vote, he would continue as-is.
Well, f
k the fking fk off then. Represent Scotland now, and if Scotland isn't quite good enough for you to gain an entry into major tournaments, well, that's just how the Highland Oat Cookie crumbles.What really f
ks me off about all of this is that they (Scotland) seem to want to cherry-pick the good bits and bin the bits they don't fancy. It's bad enough as it is today. They want their own parliament, but not to bale from Westminster; to set their own policies but to take the "nice" UK ones. To fk off but to keep the pound. If you want your deep-fried Mars Bar and to eat it as well, that's fine, but don't think you can pig out on Victoria sponge at the same time.You can't expect the bloke to represent England or Wales - do you?
It's a bit of a non story really.
doogz said:
GetCarter said:
You are right. There was a poll with age sex location profession a while back and men in their 30s in Glasgow were the most likely to vote yes. Teenagers and older women most likely to vote no. Amongst older folk, the more people earn, the more they are likely to vote no.
You think there's a direct correlation there between earnings and IQ/intelligence?t, Tories are bds, let's vote yes, etc.)simoid said:
doogz said:
GetCarter said:
You are right. There was a poll with age sex location profession a while back and men in their 30s in Glasgow were the most likely to vote yes. Teenagers and older women most likely to vote no. Amongst older folk, the more people earn, the more they are likely to vote no.
You think there's a direct correlation there between earnings and IQ/intelligence?t, Tories are bds, let's vote yes, etc.)just for a second I thought you wrote "earrings"
Not as it matters, I suspect most tattooed nesbitts are ear-ringed too
Will this all be over soon? I pray
(any sky-pixie of your choice if you like)
a311 said:
Anyone watching the 2 hour debate on ITV/STV? Choice of each side panel is a bit confusing......
Why does Sturgeon keep walking towards the audience? Just like Salmond did with Darling! Do people really fall for these tricks? It's like watching an episode of The thick of it.
rollondeath said:
Why does Sturgeon keep walking towards the audience? Just like Salmond did with Darling! Do people really fall for these tricks? It's like watching an episode of The thick of it.
I watched it all on STV even the Green Party Pro Yes does it at the end but so Did Ruth Davidson (Nicola didn't like that). Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff