Peaches Geldof found dead.
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98elise said:
Agreed. I just found out a bloke in our street (who I've probably spoke to twice) has cancer, and will not see next christmas. I have no real connection to him, but the news was shocking to me. He will leave a wife and kids. Its just empathy with a family you have some knowledge of, and know that they have lost someone too early. No different to celebrity deaths.
I think it's a little different. You have a real relationship with people you communicate with on your street, or people you interact with in your life.Although we dont personally know those who make the news due to their death it does not detract from the fact that there are their friends and family out there that today are possibly having the worst experience of their lives and if we are decent people we should recognise that.
If it was your daughter/wife/mother you'd be going through personal hell right now.
If it was your daughter/wife/mother you'd be going through personal hell right now.
Halb said:
98elise said:
Agreed. I just found out a bloke in our street (who I've probably spoke to twice) has cancer, and will not see next christmas. I have no real connection to him, but the news was shocking to me. He will leave a wife and kids. Its just empathy with a family you have some knowledge of, and know that they have lost someone too early. No different to celebrity deaths.
I think it's a little different. You have a real relationship with people you communicate with on your street, or people you interact with in your life.Whereas I have to admit to buying some of BG's music, even jumping up and down to it in the 70s (couldn't really call it dancing) loving what he did at liveaid and taking something from his anti establishment, off the wall views. Of course I don't know him but he's had some sort of an impact on me and I really feel for the fellah, tragic!
I'm sure many people can empathise with her situation with regards to her mother, and how that will have had a continuing impact on her life.
I am fortunate in that I was raised by 2 healthy, loving parents who were always around. I know a few people who lost parents to cancer, heart attacks, suicide at an age where you would probably assume they would not even be able to remember their mother / father later in life. Even if that is the case, the people I know in this situation, many of whom have been treated for depression for long parts of their lives, often say that even if they cannot remember their mother / father, they know they are missing a very important part of their lives which they will never be able to replace and which constantly torments them. Looking at the photos that she has lately tweeted, I would suggest that she had a lot of demons in the closet WRT her mother.
PND can do terrible things to women and their pysches, and I would suggest in this situation a combination of factors have contributed to her being depressed and taking her own life.
So sad for those she has left behind.
I am fortunate in that I was raised by 2 healthy, loving parents who were always around. I know a few people who lost parents to cancer, heart attacks, suicide at an age where you would probably assume they would not even be able to remember their mother / father later in life. Even if that is the case, the people I know in this situation, many of whom have been treated for depression for long parts of their lives, often say that even if they cannot remember their mother / father, they know they are missing a very important part of their lives which they will never be able to replace and which constantly torments them. Looking at the photos that she has lately tweeted, I would suggest that she had a lot of demons in the closet WRT her mother.
PND can do terrible things to women and their pysches, and I would suggest in this situation a combination of factors have contributed to her being depressed and taking her own life.
So sad for those she has left behind.
Halb said:
98elise said:
Agreed. I just found out a bloke in our street (who I've probably spoke to twice) has cancer, and will not see next christmas. I have no real connection to him, but the news was shocking to me. He will leave a wife and kids. Its just empathy with a family you have some knowledge of, and know that they have lost someone too early. No different to celebrity deaths.
I think it's a little different. You have a real relationship with people you communicate with on your street, or people you interact with in your life.When a person dies unexpectedly, and you have any form of relationship with them (no matter how tenuous) you will feel an emotion. Normally because it reminds you of just how fragile your own life is.
When Mickey Rooney died a few days ago I didn't feel anything. He was an old man and led a full life, it was his time. Peaches Geldof was a young person, with two very young children. She had the death of her mother to contend with, and how her children have lost their mother. I didn't know anything about else her other than her being the daughter of Bob Geldof (someone I respected in the 80's). That's enough the register some emotion with me, and others.
98elise said:
Ok here's another one. A boy at my sons school drowned. He died while in the care of his grandmother, who had just lost her husband and had decided to take the family on holiday to help get over their loss.I have never met any of them, but the story was shocking to me. I still think about it occasionally, and it still makes me sad to think of what that must have done to their family.
When a person dies unexpectedly, and you have any form of relationship with them (no matter how tenuous) you will feel an emotion. Normally because it reminds you of just how fragile your own life is.
When Mickey Rooney died a few days ago I didn't feel anything. He was an old man and led a full life, it was his time. Peaches Geldof was a young person, with two very young children. She had the death of her mother to contend with, and how her children have lost their mother. I didn't know anything about else her other than her being the daughter of Bob Geldof (someone I respected in the 80's). That's enough the register some emotion with me, and others.
Well put When a person dies unexpectedly, and you have any form of relationship with them (no matter how tenuous) you will feel an emotion. Normally because it reminds you of just how fragile your own life is.
When Mickey Rooney died a few days ago I didn't feel anything. He was an old man and led a full life, it was his time. Peaches Geldof was a young person, with two very young children. She had the death of her mother to contend with, and how her children have lost their mother. I didn't know anything about else her other than her being the daughter of Bob Geldof (someone I respected in the 80's). That's enough the register some emotion with me, and others.
RIP
I have tried to imagine how this can happen to someone who has 2 kids and a loving marriage and no money worries. What can go through your mind (if it was suicide) to think this microcosm of life would be better off without me? I can only assume it was a natural death or one bought on from past adventures.
98elise said:
Ok here's another one. A boy at my sons school drowned. He died while in the care of his grandmother, who had just lost her husband and had decided to take the family on holiday to help get over their loss.I have never met any of them, but the story was shocking to me. I still think about it occasionally, and it still makes me sad to think of what that must have done to their family.
When a person dies unexpectedly, and you have any form of relationship with them (no matter how tenuous) you will feel an emotion. Normally because it reminds you of just how fragile your own life is.
When Mickey Rooney died a few days ago I didn't feel anything. He was an old man and led a full life, it was his time. Peaches Geldof was a young person, with two very young children. She had the death of her mother to contend with, and how her children have lost their mother. I didn't know anything about else her other than her being the daughter of Bob Geldof (someone I respected in the 80's). That's enough the register some emotion with me, and others.
I understand that. I emphasize with people on telly, and I was not saying that there was anything wrong with the emotion you feel. Just that the situation was different.When a person dies unexpectedly, and you have any form of relationship with them (no matter how tenuous) you will feel an emotion. Normally because it reminds you of just how fragile your own life is.
When Mickey Rooney died a few days ago I didn't feel anything. He was an old man and led a full life, it was his time. Peaches Geldof was a young person, with two very young children. She had the death of her mother to contend with, and how her children have lost their mother. I didn't know anything about else her other than her being the daughter of Bob Geldof (someone I respected in the 80's). That's enough the register some emotion with me, and others.
DSLiverpool said:
I have tried to imagine how this can happen to someone who has 2 kids and a loving marriage and no money worries. What can go through your mind (if it was suicide) to think this microcosm of life would be better off without me? I can only assume it was a natural death or one bought on from past adventures.
I would be very surprised if it wasn't suicide. As mentioned earlier PND/ mother dying could and likely played a part. Someone said earlier you never get over a parent dying when you're a child. That I'm afraid is nonsense. While mine are not dead (almost did when I was younger) many of my mates have lost parents to all sorts and they're functioning human beings.CAPP0 said:
Regarding the speculation of suicide, and the other comments about an aneurysm, I believe the police have said there are "no suspicious circumstances". Is suicide classed as "not suspicious" or does that statement imply death otherwise than by suicide?
She could have fallen down the stairs I guess? that's not suspicious, suicide IS suspicious.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff