Peaches Geldof found dead.
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La Liga said:
Jasandjules said:
La Liga said:
Heroin addiction is extremely powerful. When I speak to users they say it's like that from the first hit.
Logically, the solution is to not take any in the first place?There's still a lifestyle choice to be made as an adult, but it's not a level playing field to begin with.
WCZ said:
she shouldn't have had children because she was a heroin user, IMO
Isn't the popular wisdom about her that she had been and stopped.I take onboard the views once a user always a user but if you get my point ?
I do think the fact she got a column in a Mum and Baby magazine to be horrific TBH
Mercury00 said:
I was thinking maybe she wasn't a habitual heroin user, but rather she was depressed and committed suicide in the same way her mother died. It kind of makes sense when you look at her last Twitter post.
Tabloid claims from previous years suggest otherwise. There was also that 18 year old boy, friend of PG, who died of a heroin OD. His last message on social media was something along the lines of heading round to Peaches to mainline for the first time just a few days before. His parents were furious at the lack of response from authorities.
gpo746 said:
Isn't the popular wisdom about her that she had been and stopped.
I take onboard the views once a user always a user but if you get my point ?
I do think the fact she got a column in a Mum and Baby magazine to be horrific TBH
it's a tough habit to kick and not as difficult as you'd think to conceal from the media (philip seymour hoffman etc)I take onboard the views once a user always a user but if you get my point ?
I do think the fact she got a column in a Mum and Baby magazine to be horrific TBH
but I'm sure it's possible she wasn't actively using anymore and just used it as a painfree method of suicide, I just doubt it personally
BBC News said:
Heroin is "likely" to have played a role in the death of Peaches Geldof, an inquest has revealed.
The results of a toxicology report showed TV presenter Geldof, who died suddenly last month aged 25, had the drug in her system.
Geldof was the second daughter of musician and campaigner Bob Geldof and the late Paula Yates, who died of a heroin overdose at the age of 41.
Geldof, who was 11 when her mother died, left two sons and a husband.
At a brief inquest in Gravesend, Det Ch Insp Paul Fotheringham, told the hearing: "Recent use of heroin and the levels identified were likely to have played a role in her death."
The results of a toxicology report showed TV presenter Geldof, who died suddenly last month aged 25, had the drug in her system.
Geldof was the second daughter of musician and campaigner Bob Geldof and the late Paula Yates, who died of a heroin overdose at the age of 41.
Geldof, who was 11 when her mother died, left two sons and a husband.
At a brief inquest in Gravesend, Det Ch Insp Paul Fotheringham, told the hearing: "Recent use of heroin and the levels identified were likely to have played a role in her death."
All rubbish this, if your 'best friend', daughter, sister, wife, etc had a problem with hard drugs then you'd try to do something about it, particularly if they had very young children. It just seems that in the world of celebs you do nothing, then when tragedy strikes you just publicly speak of your loss and how close you were to the wonderful 'angel'. I just can't fathom it all, upsets me that this sort of nonsense seems to happen so often.
La Liga said:
If by "knowing" you mean 100%, then probably not. If by the standards the coroner will use, then there are lots of evidential ways in which a conclusion can be drawn beyond an obvious note / letter.
Indeed. But the world is a little more complicated than that.
It is indeed - but knowing how your mum met her demise would be a powerful incentive for most people to not attempt it. Jasandjules said:
La Liga said:
eroin addiction is extremely powerful. When I speak to users they say it's like that from the first hit.
Logically, the solution is to not take any in the first place?qube_TA said:
All rubbish this, if your 'best friend', daughter, sister, wife, etc had a problem with hard drugs then you'd try to do something about it, particularly if they had very young children. It just seems that in the world of celebs you do nothing, then when tragedy strikes you just publicly speak of your loss and how close you were to the wonderful 'angel'. I just can't fathom it all, upsets me that this sort of nonsense seems to happen so often.
Maybe have a chat with Amy Winehouses father. I think he tried absolutely everything, there's just some people you just can't reach. know a little bit about these things as my first cousin overdosed in her early twenties, she had become addicted after her father died and she witnessed it, he fell off a cliff, she was never the same!! She then stopped and had not touched the stuff for several years but was found dead one evening by her mother, basically what happened is she had taken the same dosage she used to when a regular user and her body simply could not cope, I fear the same thing has happened in this case...
Gargamel said:
qube_TA said:
All rubbish this, if your 'best friend', daughter, sister, wife, etc had a problem with hard drugs then you'd try to do something about it, particularly if they had very young children. It just seems that in the world of celebs you do nothing, then when tragedy strikes you just publicly speak of your loss and how close you were to the wonderful 'angel'. I just can't fathom it all, upsets me that this sort of nonsense seems to happen so often.
Maybe have a chat with Amy Winehouses father. I think he tried absolutely everything, there's just some people you just can't reach. chippy17 said:
know a little bit about these things as my first cousin overdosed in her early twenties, she had become addicted after her father died and she witnessed it, he fell off a cliff, she was never the same!! She then stopped and had not touched the stuff for several years but was found dead one evening by her mother, basically what happened is she had taken the same dosage she used to when a regular user and her body simply could not cope, I fear the same thing has happened in this case...
Exactly the same thing happened to my nephew. The son of a miner in a pit village near Doncaster that became more like a war zone when Thatchers brutality overcame the Miners Strike. He fell in with the wrong crowd & started using heroin, got arrested for petty crime & sent down but cleaned up his act upon release & managed to obtain a flat & a job. Things were on the up for him until he had a bad day at work & didn't turn up the next day. My sister was alerted & with her husband went to his flat, & after letting themselves in (they had a key)found him slumped face down with his head resting on a electric fire, not switched on. At first they didn't think it was him because his face was black, they didn't realise it was his blood that had congealed there.The post mortem revealed he had taken heroin, but not a large dose. His body couldn't handle it any more.
He was 25, & even now many years later my sister has not recovered. My heart goes out to anyone who has a family member die this way.
qube_TA said:
All rubbish this, if your 'best friend', daughter, sister, wife, etc had a problem with hard drugs then you'd try to do something about it, particularly if they had very young children. It just seems that in the world of celebs you do nothing, then when tragedy strikes you just publicly speak of your loss and how close you were to the wonderful 'angel'. I just can't fathom it all, upsets me that this sort of nonsense seems to happen so often.
How do you know what went on?andy_s said:
qube_TA said:
All rubbish this, if your 'best friend', daughter, sister, wife, etc had a problem with hard drugs then you'd try to do something about it, particularly if they had very young children. It just seems that in the world of celebs you do nothing, then when tragedy strikes you just publicly speak of your loss and how close you were to the wonderful 'angel'. I just can't fathom it all, upsets me that this sort of nonsense seems to happen so often.
How do you know what went on?Compare with Gazza. His mates have paid for him to be dried out in rehab several times with no effect. George Best nearly died and was given a new liver and even that didn't keep him off the sauce.
FiF said:
May I most sincerely apologise to the entire PH community for starting this thread. If there had been the slightest inkling of just what woodlice would come creeping out from the forum skirting boards then the thread would not have been started.
I am out.
I started the same topic at the same time but mine got merged into this one.I am out.
Quite lucky in retrospect.
"The singer had been away for the weekend with the elder of their two sons, Astala, leaving Geldof at home with their 11-month old son, Phaedra"
Call be a bit old fashioned but normally names for boys are John and Bob. Imagine if these end up working as brickies on a building site the teasing they will get. The pain on the phone when they are trying to get new car insurance as well, "Er, can you spell that?"
Serious point though, it's a symptom of things not being right at source.
Call be a bit old fashioned but normally names for boys are John and Bob. Imagine if these end up working as brickies on a building site the teasing they will get. The pain on the phone when they are trying to get new car insurance as well, "Er, can you spell that?"
Serious point though, it's a symptom of things not being right at source.
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