What's Italian for 'kipper? Anti-migrant stunt goes awry.

[league67]

Guam said:

Firstly dipstick I am not a "kipper", you clearly are of the mould that anyone who argues with the constant barrage of insults is though.'

Bless.

UKIP > kipper, sounds cute, almost pet like, why would you think that that is offensive?

Guam said:

I presume you can demonstrate Party membership or affiliations that I currently hold? No, thought not as there aren't any, presumably you can also show my voting history?

What you cant show that either?

So basically you have no fking clue, who I have voted for in the past, what my normal tendencies are (should I have any), even though over the years I have stated what my historic leanings have been.

Again, why so angry poppet? It's an internet forum, you really need to chill-out. I'll read into your posts that you are kipper, I am free to interpret things as I like, it's not like that I'm making absurd statement like '30% of falling in living standards'.

Guam said:

You are typical of the worst elements that show up on these threads, and accuse folk of being EDL, or BNP members, Bible belters etc, because they have the temerity to question our lords and masters.

You are lying, I never accused anyone of being member of EDL or BNP. Stop making things up.

Guam said:

I can see you will fit right in with the intellectually challenged idiots that use "kipper" to define anyone they disagree with.

Look up the first quote, 'barrage of insults'. Bless your simple polka-dot socks. And all this time I thought that I was the one questioning unreserved admiration to NF.

Guam said:

Clearly fear and ignorance are both present in equal measure here.

I agree.

Edit to use bigger font.

Edited by league67 on Monday 21st April 12:32

Edited by league67 on Monday 21st April 12:34

[league67]

WinstonWolf said:

I told him to STFU, trolling gets boring after a while...

You are simple, that's all there is to it. You made ridiculous statement, and you were questioned. You didn't like that one single bit. Predictable, if a bit sad. I just don't understand why would you delete your post. And no, I'm not asking.

[4v6]

And with that, the big billy goat gruff butted the ugly troll off the bridge and into the river where he made a most satisfying splash, never to be seen again.
And they all lived happily ever after.
So there.

[Countdown]

Guam said:

<snip>More bks, in my reply TO countdown I was quite clear I would look for the Link and post it as soon as I had time, which I did,

To clarify I had a look at the link. I didn't find anything in it to suggest your assertion that living standards had fallen by 30%. You then posted something along the lines of "living standards are 30% below where they should be" which (to me) is like saying "I am earning 30% less than I should be" - it didn't make sense, especially when you look at real earning over the same period of time. You may as well state "living standards are 355.4% below where they should be" - unless you can provide an index for comparison purposes the statistic becomes meaningless. WW then piped up to say his living standards had fallen but became unusually reticent when asked to elaborate.

FWIW I'm sure politicians of every hue use dodgy stats - but their supporters shouldn't get upset when those stats are challenged.

[league67]

Guam said:

More bks, in my reply TO countdown I was quite clear I would look for the Link and post it as soon as I had time, which I did, (regulars on here will know I always do so when I commit to it),

Except that link doesn't say that living standards have fallen by 30%. Nothing even close. Once again, you misheard it or made it up. Couldn't care less which, you were wrong.

Guam said:

there you go with the USA thread again, Found that Guy from the bible belt yet?
Last time I looked New Orleans doesn't qualify for that descriptor (presumably you mean Jim)? Feel free to prove me wrong though!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BibleBelt.png

Guam said:

In that thread IIRC I was accused of being a Republican (which was damned funny) all that being said what does that have to do with this thread?

By whom? In that thread I found funny how you felt necessary to defend Jim's (thanks), ridiculous statements. Do you still not see the link?

[league67]

Countdown said:

<snip>

FWIW I'm sure politicians of every hue use dodgy stats - but their supporters shouldn't get upset when those stats are challenged.

It is that simple. Problem is, once you get into "<insert any human being here> can't do no wrong' zealotry, all bets are off. Heretics shouldn't question deities. After all, deities move in mysterious ways.

[turbobloke]

league67 said:

turbobloke said:

Firstly, there's nothing better about a multi-man band with an agenda, secondly you and various others when discussing sources need to learn the difference between primary and secondary sources.

I'm sure we all need to learn a lot, from someone who thinks that source that states that CCA will/does add £880 to annual bill is credible. Home page, right hand side. Seriously?

You get back on the same dead end trail without learning the difference between primary and secondary sources, really?

The data which was cited in the earlier link over at notalotofpeople came from DECC and the government's Carbon Plan.

Having gone to the Home page you mentioned I couldn't see any mention of £880 - really, though it may be easily missed, over on the RHS, or the items may change. However if it refers to this...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/chri...

Article said:

Renewables will add £880 a year to bills

...then care is needed over apples and oranges, and the same caution over sources applies there as well.

For the above article, the data is from Ofgem and the government. These are the people you need to contact to take up any issues you have with the data, not a blogger and not the Telegraph. It would still help you not to look so silly when trying and failing to look smart if you mastered the primary and secondary source issue.

[league67]

Guam said:

Lets try again for the terminally Dim, I wasnt defending Jims statements, I looked at the figures and the data he cited was largely correct, indeed US politicians cite such figures regularly. (once more this is not a thread about that is it)?

With regards to the 30% asked and answered repeatedly, re read the posts out loud and slowly, processing each word carefully so it penetrates. Even you should then understand it.

It seems that I helped with basic USA geography. You are welcome.

You did defend Jim's stances throughout that thread.

You seem to have pathological need to make up things (example; BNP & EDL above).

As for 30%, be careful if you backpedal any faster you might fall over your walker. It's very simple, they did say that in link provided or they didn't. Hint; they did not.

Dr Cox will put that point across much more eloquently;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

[league67]

turbobloke said:

...then care is needed over apples and oranges, and the same caution over sources applies there as well.

For the above article, the data is from Ofgem and the government. These are the people you need to contact to take up any issues you have with the data, not a blogger and not the Telegraph. It would still help you not to look so silly when trying and failing to look smart if you mastered the primary and secondary source issue.

The care is needed? I'm getting heat from the guy who thinks that typing liabore, bliar and camoron is the pinnacle of wit. Well done you.

Home page of Repealtheact.org. Right hand side.


You were quick to point that figure of £63 is bks regardless of source. That source was government and ofgem, based on part of 9% widely accepted figure (even big six agree with that figure). The same government and ofgem that you cite as your primary source for £880 claim. Why not link direct source rather than going to whatyoualwayswantedtoknowaboutnige.com or whatever is called? And, I'm not really asking.



Once

[WinstonWolf]

league67 said:

WinstonWolf said:

I told him to STFU, trolling gets boring after a while...

You are simple, that's all there is to it. You made ridiculous statement, and you were questioned. You didn't like that one single bit. Predictable, if a bit sad. I just don't understand why would you delete your post. And no, I'm not asking.

My statement was correct, but I do not share my personal financial details with a troll.

I haven't gone quiet, I am simply bored with you.

[steveT350C]

Amusing, and lighthearted....

"UKIP is the last party formally in support of the Polish minority in the UK, and yet more proof that you do not have to support Labour just because you happen to belong to an ethnic minority."

http://www.trendingcentral.com/leftie-ukip-attacks...

[league67]

Guam said:

Actually no, you are terminally ill informed, I was on a UKIP thread described as an EDL organiser and member of the BNP <reported to Mods> they can look it up if they choose. You are clearly a troll, as to accuse a poster with whom you disagree of making up things which are actually a matter of record and easily checked, zhows how distorted your view of reality is, you should definitely seek intervention at the earliest opportunity.

No need for a walker thanks my legs work just fine, better it seems than your comprehension skills.

No back pedaling required, try harder.

Oh no you did not help with basic US geography, as if Jim is still in New Orleans it is not considered part of the Bible belt as that link showed.
Still failing, miserably I am afraid

Almost time for the ignore button I suspect.

I don't give a toss what were you described as on UKIP thread. But it's standard modus operandi for you. So I'm not 'typical' of people who told you that. Again, you make things up as you go. I'm sure that mods will be able to protect you from colorful language that randoms on internet are hurling in your general direction.

Keep repeating the same over and over again. Fact; there is no mention of 30% of falling standards in linked article. None whatsoever. Everything else is noise and backpedaling.

Specsavers are doing special. Check it out.

Omg, ignore? Please? No holding hands, no windy walks? Jog on, grasshopper. Thanks for the lols though.

(There was an honest LOL on ignore part )

[league67]

WinstonWolf said:

My statement was correct, but I do not share my personal financial details with a troll.

I haven't gone quiet, I am simply bored with you.

You made decision to volunteer information about your, claimed, fall in living standards.

[league67]

steveT350C said:

Amusing, and lighthearted....

"UKIP is the last party formally in support of the Polish minority in the UK, and yet more proof that you do not have to support Labour just because you happen to belong to an ethnic minority."

http://www.trendingcentral.com/leftie-ukip-attacks...

Good job. Well done.

[NicD]

Do you think the poster organised that himself?
very funny.

[anonymous-user]

Interesting election posters, eh? I see that the 75% of law making canard is still doing the rounds. Also the complete fib, for such it is, that there are 26 million Eurocitizens after your job. Pretty confident, not to say brazen stuff.

Shouty bloke deputy to Farage on the Today prog being shouty. John Humphreys gently nailed him.

[mrpurple]

Breadvan72 said:

Interesting election posters, eh? I see that the 75% of law making canard is still doing the rounds. Also the complete fib, for such it is, that there are 26 million Eurocitizens after your job. Pretty confident, not to say brazen stuff.

Shouty bloke deputy to Farage on the Today prog being shouty. John Humphreys gently nailed him.

This will be right then............UKIP leader Nigel Farage said: "Are we going to ruffle a few feathers among the chattering classes? Yes. Are we bothered about that? Not in the slightest."

http://www.ukip.org/ukip_has_just_launched_its_big...

Any link for this BV or just your interpretation? "that there are 26 million Eurocitizens after your job."

Edited by mrpurple on Tuesday 22 April 09:04

[anonymous-user]

I am not at all ruffled, but am amused to see UKIP living up to stereotype. I have nothing but gentle compassion and pity for those of you who are sufficiently benighted to fall for the nonsense.

26 million: see the poster. If that isn't plan enough, listen to the Today discussion.

[WinstonWolf]

Breadvan72 said:

I am not at all ruffled, but am amused to see UKIP living up to stereotype. I have nothing but gentle compassion and pity for those of you who are sufficiently benighted to fall for the nonsense.

26 million: see the poster. If that isn't plan enough, listen to the Today discussion.

And insults, don't forget the insults...

[anonymous-user]

Here, for the hard of Googling, are some pics of the posters.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27105374

On the subject of ruffling the chattering classes, this is a further indication that Farage is a deeply unserious politician. He is the archetype of the fourth form wag, laughing at his own rather duff jokes. He has nothing serious to offer the electorate, just merry japes and wheezes pour épater la bourgeoisie. Jokes are fun, but politics also needs a bit of seriousness.