What's Italian for 'kipper? Anti-migrant stunt goes awry.
Discussion
10 Pence Short said:
I think, possibly like many people, I am yearning for a new generation of politicians. I no longer trust the establishment to be custodian of my interests. I believe being a politician has become a career choice, like being an X Factor contestant trying to be a celebrity.
I don't personally see Farage as anything different to the others. So I still hunt for good, honest politicians.
Have they changed or are you just older and smarter?I don't personally see Farage as anything different to the others. So I still hunt for good, honest politicians.
I suspect most people reach an age when they suddenly 'get' politics and that it is all about dishonesty and weaselling. And this probably happens around the time that you are raising children and grafting hard to have almost no patience for such scrotes.
I certainly agree that this generation of 40+ middle ground, privately educated weasels could all do with being replaced with a different group of weasels but whatever happens the very nature of politics is that it attracts weasels and only a weasel can rise to the top. Find a politician you respect and trust and you'll be looking at a failed politician in reality.
Guam said:
DonkeyApple said:
Guam said:
DonkeyApple said:
How does a UKIP supporter separate them self from the racists though? The party clearly attracts this element of society.
Also, if a cause is valid in its integrity, why would it seek allegiance with extremists? Surely that's a sign of weakness?
Why would the Labour party have associated itself with a liberal elite that covered up Child abuse, if the information coming out is to be believed, then the higher echelons of the criminal system and the secret services were aware, therefore senior politicians would have been briefed in, this line of logic has nowhere to go, unless one applies selective reasoning, due to ones own preconceptions and political views.Also, if a cause is valid in its integrity, why would it seek allegiance with extremists? Surely that's a sign of weakness?
The questions logically are could it happen now, what have the parties done, or are doing to sort it, what part does real politik play in calculations, etc
What we can conclude is all parties have had (and will continue to have) issues, are they being addressed is the key factor (and whether we believe them).
The question is fundamentally one that can be put to any follower of a political party and how it is answered or discussed is where the merit lies. As we've seen, some will dive in with aggression and that tells you much about them, others may deny or justify but the logical would tend to discuss.
For me I deplore the use of extremist groups to try and achieve ones aims I feel strongly that if a cause is sufficiently just then it has no need to parlay with extremist, minority groups. I don't see why UKIP is talking to these far right groups let alone working with them.
These slurs are demeaning to everyone both those considering UKIP as a possible option for our vote at the next opportunity and those using them
Its pointless doing it, it has bee done for ages on these threads and is wholly counterproductive imho.
As I pointed out above we have no way of knowing whether something equally nightmarish is going on now at the heart of govt.
Some of those who MUST have known, show up in the EU referendum debates, I sincerely trust the Next time a Liberal Grandee mouths off about the EU they get asked "what did you know about Smith" and "why did you not reveal it to the public"
However, UKIP have a view on immigration which is actually at odds with some of the essentially neo nazi groups with which they are holding court.
If you look at UKIP they do not have domestic affiliations with extremely violent right wing groups yet these other parties do.
It's all well and good some people saying that Labour in the past condoned paedophilia but it is fair to say that no labour supporter would openly support this. In this thread there are people openly supporting some of UKIP's members extreme views and who become rather verbally violent when questioned and try to s
t down discussion. In short, UKIP raises vital issues which are important to all Britons and should be inlet discussed but I cannot see any valid reason or purpose in UKIP siding with overseas extremist groups and also not dealing with some of their extreme members.
Breadvan72 said:
...if someone is a doctor, a lawyer, a plumber, an IT consultant, or whatever, and a member of the same profession is found to be committing crime or professional misconduct, there is no association between the guilty person and the innocent one just by virtue of them both doing the same job...
I assume bankers are not covered under 'or whatever'?Well 24 hours later and I'd have expected at least a couple of replies regarding the reasons for all the hate thrown at ukip/supporters/farage, but I guess it was too much to expect, it must be predjudice.
Maybe a passing mod could rename the thread to Breadvans Ukip hate thread or suchlike?
A bit much even for here?
Maybe a passing mod could rename the thread to Breadvans Ukip hate thread or suchlike?
A bit much even for here?
Various hate fuelled leftists said:
Kippers
UKIP hang round with a bunch of neo Facist nut jobs
idiocy of some idiots
he willingly allies himself with Neo Fascist nutjobs
even a 'kipper doesn't need that written out in crayon,
Ridiculing hateful idiots is one (not the only) way of responding to them.
'Kippers like sunny holidays, but hate Jonny Foreigner
Farage's main vice is that he's an hypocrite - a systematically dishonest (second) career politician masquerading as a bloke in the pub.
+1 .....and UKIP are happy to be politically associated with this lot
I wonder how big a fan Farage is of Breivik, or perhaps even vice versa
Farage is ludicrous
Farage has a populist appeal to the gullible, the ill informed, and the angry who are easily taken in by alarmism and plain lying,
Remember, you're talking to 'kippers. Type slowly!
fruitloopy or hatey UKIP types
In the interests of inclusivity this post is written in crayon
oh yeah a real "everyman"
He would also attract plenty of BNP votes in the slums.
I would rather rub donkey jizz in my hair than vote UKIP
UKIP thrive on division, ignorance & fear.
the man himself is an utter charlatan, and probably one of the most dishonest professional politicians active in the UK today
When NF's plane crashed he was putting the Champagne on ice, and was very upset when the Nige emerged from the wreckage unscathed.
A glib talker
his giggling minions and somewhat unpalatable "allies of convenience" (Lega Nord et al)
I think that the word charlatan fits him
That makes him dishonest by any normal standard
They base their criticism fundamentally on the fact that the EU is "foreign", and that is what really trails the coat of UKIP and its benighted followers
a sort of quasi-religious cult, based on belief, not reason, and led by a typical cult leader: a charismatic fraud.
Think of the pub bore who now gets to be a well paid professional pub bore.
It is cruel and wrong to laugh at the afflicted, but that doesn't stop it being fun
they don't like the EU or immigrants and align themselves with some rather nasty people in the EU.
Of course if UKIPs chums at Lega Nord (to bring the thread back to its roots) had their way we'd be on a special white mans bus,
Lega Nord haven't changed theirs. UKIP is still in bed with them.
Farage lies on this issue, just as he lies on the membership fee.
he is the epitome of the careful spin merchant
if you follow a ridiculous creed, then expect to be ridiculed
the comments are dominated by UKIP acolytes.
There are a fair few racists, but leave them to fester in the places where racists fester (eg: UKIP discussion boards)
And you wonder where the swivel eyed loon tag comes from
Nige is the only party leader who has to spend quite so much time apologising for, disowning and expelling his followers.
a politician who makes mendacity an art form
He's a snake oil salesman.
UKIP as a passing protest fad/bunch of reactionary hateys.
The swivel-eyed frothy bitter aftertaste (not as apparent in the others) is also a deterrent.
UKIP attracts people who have old fashioned and bigoted ideas about nationality, sexuality, and so forth.
attempt of the PH UKIP supporters to suggest that UKIP is not a haven for people who have Alf Garnett mindset
denial about the ugly face of their faith
another isolated incident of a UKIP politician being suspected of fraud this week
UKIP seem to be attracting an exceptionally large number. [ of racists]
When even the founder of UKIP thinks they're racist
can all play "Looney or Fruitcake"
why would that make sts from UKIP any less deserving of scrutiny
laughable cohorts.
How many kinds of racist are you?
I reckon Farage is secretly funded by the United British Benefits Scroungers' Alliance to ensure attention is diverted away from them, and dirty Johnny Foreigner provides a convenient scapegoat.
UKIP members holding dreadful views
ignorant hateys
Let us assume that, despite the evidence to the contrary, UKIP is not a righty-hatey group
crayon may be a bit too advanced for you, and we may have to break the glass and deploy the emergency finger paints.
How does a UKIP supporter separate them self from the racists though? The party clearly attracts this element of society.
You're a low brow punter who can't even read properly
UKIP is talking to these far right groups
UKIP hang round with a bunch of neo Facist nut jobs
idiocy of some idiots
he willingly allies himself with Neo Fascist nutjobs
even a 'kipper doesn't need that written out in crayon,
Ridiculing hateful idiots is one (not the only) way of responding to them.
'Kippers like sunny holidays, but hate Jonny Foreigner
Farage's main vice is that he's an hypocrite - a systematically dishonest (second) career politician masquerading as a bloke in the pub.
+1 .....and UKIP are happy to be politically associated with this lot
I wonder how big a fan Farage is of Breivik, or perhaps even vice versa
Farage is ludicrous
Farage has a populist appeal to the gullible, the ill informed, and the angry who are easily taken in by alarmism and plain lying,
Remember, you're talking to 'kippers. Type slowly!
fruitloopy or hatey UKIP types
In the interests of inclusivity this post is written in crayon
oh yeah a real "everyman"
He would also attract plenty of BNP votes in the slums.
I would rather rub donkey jizz in my hair than vote UKIP
UKIP thrive on division, ignorance & fear.
the man himself is an utter charlatan, and probably one of the most dishonest professional politicians active in the UK today
When NF's plane crashed he was putting the Champagne on ice, and was very upset when the Nige emerged from the wreckage unscathed.
A glib talker
his giggling minions and somewhat unpalatable "allies of convenience" (Lega Nord et al)
I think that the word charlatan fits him
That makes him dishonest by any normal standard
They base their criticism fundamentally on the fact that the EU is "foreign", and that is what really trails the coat of UKIP and its benighted followers
a sort of quasi-religious cult, based on belief, not reason, and led by a typical cult leader: a charismatic fraud.
Think of the pub bore who now gets to be a well paid professional pub bore.
It is cruel and wrong to laugh at the afflicted, but that doesn't stop it being fun
they don't like the EU or immigrants and align themselves with some rather nasty people in the EU.
Of course if UKIPs chums at Lega Nord (to bring the thread back to its roots) had their way we'd be on a special white mans bus,
Lega Nord haven't changed theirs. UKIP is still in bed with them.
Farage lies on this issue, just as he lies on the membership fee.
he is the epitome of the careful spin merchant
if you follow a ridiculous creed, then expect to be ridiculed
the comments are dominated by UKIP acolytes.
There are a fair few racists, but leave them to fester in the places where racists fester (eg: UKIP discussion boards)
And you wonder where the swivel eyed loon tag comes from
Nige is the only party leader who has to spend quite so much time apologising for, disowning and expelling his followers.
a politician who makes mendacity an art form
He's a snake oil salesman.
UKIP as a passing protest fad/bunch of reactionary hateys.
The swivel-eyed frothy bitter aftertaste (not as apparent in the others) is also a deterrent.
UKIP attracts people who have old fashioned and bigoted ideas about nationality, sexuality, and so forth.
attempt of the PH UKIP supporters to suggest that UKIP is not a haven for people who have Alf Garnett mindset
denial about the ugly face of their faith
another isolated incident of a UKIP politician being suspected of fraud this week
UKIP seem to be attracting an exceptionally large number. [ of racists]
When even the founder of UKIP thinks they're racist
can all play "Looney or Fruitcake"
why would that make s
ts from UKIP any less deserving of scrutinylaughable cohorts.
How many kinds of racist are you?
I reckon Farage is secretly funded by the United British Benefits Scroungers' Alliance to ensure attention is diverted away from them, and dirty Johnny Foreigner provides a convenient scapegoat.
UKIP members holding dreadful views
ignorant hateys
Let us assume that, despite the evidence to the contrary, UKIP is not a righty-hatey group
crayon may be a bit too advanced for you, and we may have to break the glass and deploy the emergency finger paints.
How does a UKIP supporter separate them self from the racists though? The party clearly attracts this element of society.
You're a low brow punter who can't even read properly
UKIP is talking to these far right groups
4v6 said:
Well 24 hours later and I'd have expected at least a couple of replies regarding the reasons for all the hate thrown at ukip/supporters/farage, but I guess it was too much to expect, it must be predjudice.
Maybe a passing mod could rename the thread to Breadvans Ukip hate thread or suchlike?
A bit much even for here?
Maybe a passing mod could rename the thread to Breadvans Ukip hate thread or suchlike?
A bit much even for here?
Various hate fuelled leftists said:
Kippers
UKIP hang round with a bunch of neo Facist nut jobs
idiocy of some idiots
he willingly allies himself with Neo Fascist nutjobs
even a 'kipper doesn't need that written out in crayon,
Ridiculing hateful idiots is one (not the only) way of responding to them.
'Kippers like sunny holidays, but hate Jonny Foreigner
Farage's main vice is that he's an hypocrite - a systematically dishonest (second) career politician masquerading as a bloke in the pub.
+1 .....and UKIP are happy to be politically associated with this lot
I wonder how big a fan Farage is of Breivik, or perhaps even vice versa
Farage is ludicrous
Farage has a populist appeal to the gullible, the ill informed, and the angry who are easily taken in by alarmism and plain lying,
Remember, you're talking to 'kippers. Type slowly!
fruitloopy or hatey UKIP types
In the interests of inclusivity this post is written in crayon
oh yeah a real "everyman"
He would also attract plenty of BNP votes in the slums.
I would rather rub donkey jizz in my hair than vote UKIP
UKIP thrive on division, ignorance & fear.
the man himself is an utter charlatan, and probably one of the most dishonest professional politicians active in the UK today
When NF's plane crashed he was putting the Champagne on ice, and was very upset when the Nige emerged from the wreckage unscathed.
A glib talker
his giggling minions and somewhat unpalatable "allies of convenience" (Lega Nord et al)
I think that the word charlatan fits him
That makes him dishonest by any normal standard
They base their criticism fundamentally on the fact that the EU is "foreign", and that is what really trails the coat of UKIP and its benighted followers
a sort of quasi-religious cult, based on belief, not reason, and led by a typical cult leader: a charismatic fraud.
Think of the pub bore who now gets to be a well paid professional pub bore.
It is cruel and wrong to laugh at the afflicted, but that doesn't stop it being fun
they don't like the EU or immigrants and align themselves with some rather nasty people in the EU.
Of course if UKIPs chums at Lega Nord (to bring the thread back to its roots) had their way we'd be on a special white mans bus,
Lega Nord haven't changed theirs. UKIP is still in bed with them.
Farage lies on this issue, just as he lies on the membership fee.
he is the epitome of the careful spin merchant
if you follow a ridiculous creed, then expect to be ridiculed
the comments are dominated by UKIP acolytes.
There are a fair few racists, but leave them to fester in the places where racists fester (eg: UKIP discussion boards)
And you wonder where the swivel eyed loon tag comes from
Nige is the only party leader who has to spend quite so much time apologising for, disowning and expelling his followers.
a politician who makes mendacity an art form
He's a snake oil salesman.
UKIP as a passing protest fad/bunch of reactionary hateys.
The swivel-eyed frothy bitter aftertaste (not as apparent in the others) is also a deterrent.
UKIP attracts people who have old fashioned and bigoted ideas about nationality, sexuality, and so forth.
attempt of the PH UKIP supporters to suggest that UKIP is not a haven for people who have Alf Garnett mindset
denial about the ugly face of their faith
another isolated incident of a UKIP politician being suspected of fraud this week
UKIP seem to be attracting an exceptionally large number. [ of racists]
When even the founder of UKIP thinks they're racist
can all play "Looney or Fruitcake"
why would that make sts from UKIP any less deserving of scrutiny
laughable cohorts.
How many kinds of racist are you?
I reckon Farage is secretly funded by the United British Benefits Scroungers' Alliance to ensure attention is diverted away from them, and dirty Johnny Foreigner provides a convenient scapegoat.
UKIP members holding dreadful views
ignorant hateys
Let us assume that, despite the evidence to the contrary, UKIP is not a righty-hatey group
crayon may be a bit too advanced for you, and we may have to break the glass and deploy the emergency finger paints.
How does a UKIP supporter separate them self from the racists though? The party clearly attracts this element of society.
You're a low brow punter who can't even read properly
UKIP is talking to these far right groups
Just like the recent televised debating tactics - shows how weak the established parties really are.... only served to shoot themselves in the foot and increase UKIP's / NF's popularity which I doubt was the object of the exercise ....keep up the good work gents.UKIP hang round with a bunch of neo Facist nut jobs
idiocy of some idiots
he willingly allies himself with Neo Fascist nutjobs
even a 'kipper doesn't need that written out in crayon,
Ridiculing hateful idiots is one (not the only) way of responding to them.
'Kippers like sunny holidays, but hate Jonny Foreigner
Farage's main vice is that he's an hypocrite - a systematically dishonest (second) career politician masquerading as a bloke in the pub.
+1 .....and UKIP are happy to be politically associated with this lot
I wonder how big a fan Farage is of Breivik, or perhaps even vice versa
Farage is ludicrous
Farage has a populist appeal to the gullible, the ill informed, and the angry who are easily taken in by alarmism and plain lying,
Remember, you're talking to 'kippers. Type slowly!
fruitloopy or hatey UKIP types
In the interests of inclusivity this post is written in crayon
oh yeah a real "everyman"
He would also attract plenty of BNP votes in the slums.
I would rather rub donkey jizz in my hair than vote UKIP
UKIP thrive on division, ignorance & fear.
the man himself is an utter charlatan, and probably one of the most dishonest professional politicians active in the UK today
When NF's plane crashed he was putting the Champagne on ice, and was very upset when the Nige emerged from the wreckage unscathed.
A glib talker
his giggling minions and somewhat unpalatable "allies of convenience" (Lega Nord et al)
I think that the word charlatan fits him
That makes him dishonest by any normal standard
They base their criticism fundamentally on the fact that the EU is "foreign", and that is what really trails the coat of UKIP and its benighted followers
a sort of quasi-religious cult, based on belief, not reason, and led by a typical cult leader: a charismatic fraud.
Think of the pub bore who now gets to be a well paid professional pub bore.
It is cruel and wrong to laugh at the afflicted, but that doesn't stop it being fun
they don't like the EU or immigrants and align themselves with some rather nasty people in the EU.
Of course if UKIPs chums at Lega Nord (to bring the thread back to its roots) had their way we'd be on a special white mans bus,
Lega Nord haven't changed theirs. UKIP is still in bed with them.
Farage lies on this issue, just as he lies on the membership fee.
he is the epitome of the careful spin merchant
if you follow a ridiculous creed, then expect to be ridiculed
the comments are dominated by UKIP acolytes.
There are a fair few racists, but leave them to fester in the places where racists fester (eg: UKIP discussion boards)
And you wonder where the swivel eyed loon tag comes from
Nige is the only party leader who has to spend quite so much time apologising for, disowning and expelling his followers.
a politician who makes mendacity an art form
He's a snake oil salesman.
UKIP as a passing protest fad/bunch of reactionary hateys.
The swivel-eyed frothy bitter aftertaste (not as apparent in the others) is also a deterrent.
UKIP attracts people who have old fashioned and bigoted ideas about nationality, sexuality, and so forth.
attempt of the PH UKIP supporters to suggest that UKIP is not a haven for people who have Alf Garnett mindset
denial about the ugly face of their faith
another isolated incident of a UKIP politician being suspected of fraud this week
UKIP seem to be attracting an exceptionally large number. [ of racists]
When even the founder of UKIP thinks they're racist
can all play "Looney or Fruitcake"
why would that make s
ts from UKIP any less deserving of scrutinylaughable cohorts.
How many kinds of racist are you?
I reckon Farage is secretly funded by the United British Benefits Scroungers' Alliance to ensure attention is diverted away from them, and dirty Johnny Foreigner provides a convenient scapegoat.
UKIP members holding dreadful views
ignorant hateys
Let us assume that, despite the evidence to the contrary, UKIP is not a righty-hatey group
crayon may be a bit too advanced for you, and we may have to break the glass and deploy the emergency finger paints.
How does a UKIP supporter separate them self from the racists though? The party clearly attracts this element of society.
You're a low brow punter who can't even read properly
UKIP is talking to these far right groups
Breadvan72 said:
Guam said:
Well in the spirit of this thread, do we now tar all lib dems with being child abusers because of The Cyril Smith stuff?
If you are seriously putting that forward as an argument (I am not sure that you are, as I don't think that you are really that dim) then it's back to the crayons, I'm afraid. UKIP chooses to ally with Lega Nord and assorted other righty-hatey groups from across the EU. Let us assume that, despite the evidence to the contrary, UKIP is not a righty-hatey group. It still chooses to ally itself with groups that are. Bad judgment, at the least. If someone is mad enough to join the LibDems, they do not thereby choose to ally themselves with a kiddy fiddler. If someone is complicit in covering up kiddly fiddling, they deserve to be condemned, but there is no guilt by association for the non complicit LibDem. Similarly, if someone is a doctor, a lawyer, a plumber, an IT consultant, or whatever, and a member of the same profession is found to be committing crime or professional misconduct, there is no association between the guilty person and the innocent one just by virtue of them both doing the same job. If you 'kippers really can't see this then crayon may be a bit too advanced for you, and we may have to break the glass and deploy the emergency finger paints.
Boring, condescending, superior than thou, attitude.
Brings to mind my being in front of the beak in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, some moons back, a place riddled with this old 'superior than thou' thinking. I'd been done for contravening a double white line on my way to work one morn, and the b
ds at Oxford Highways had the night prior extended the doubles by just a few yards, unbeknown to me. A motorcycle cop sat hidden at this new juncture while I'd overtaken a car/caravan knowing I could make my way past in time (I was in something nimble and quick) - I travelled this way daily for years. The new overnight extended line length meant I clipped the doubles by a whisker. A couple of miles on from nowhere the motorbike cop caught me (at Wolvercote roundabout) and handed me my notice despite my pleading. This area fell under Woodstock... oh st! I thought f it, I'm fighting this.I turned up at the magistrates court, with his highandmightyness the Duke of Marlborough one of the beaks, sat in between some other caricatures who looked like they were born in the middle ages. Oh s
t again! My turn came.
The 'superior to thou' soon started.
'You are unemployed?'
'I believe my summons stated that I was on my way to my employment?'
The old hag on the bench assumed (wrongly) I might have been dismissed...
'You are not at work today?'.
'No, I'm here!' (you dozy bint)
Soon ended after that.
They couldn't have this. Bloody upstart questioning the superior than thou beings. Court dismiss (or whatever they do and leave to discuss the punishment).
Court rise.
Straight to the point. 'Fined £25'
'How do you wish to pay?'
I thought quickly and with a smirk, I had the buggers.
'One pound a week please?'
Christ, the indignation!
'Do you have any outgoings to warrant this?'
Oh boy, I was in my element now. So I listed off everything I could think off, from mortgage, fuel the lot!
'Granted.' 'Next!'
And I had the audacity to request a receipt be posted to me every time I sent my pound - and they did!
So, a little of the patronising please, and be a bit more constructive... like a Kipper!
Edited by dandarez on Monday 14th April 23:36
FredClogs said:
TTwiggy said:
Guam said:
Well in the spirit of this thread, do we now tar all lib dems with being child abusers because of The Cyril Smith stuff?
Surely the pertinent question (in the spirit of this thread) should be 'do the Libdems have policies that may appeal to child abusers?'Do they?
4v6 said:
Well 24 hours later and I'd have expected at least a couple of replies regarding the reasons for all the hate thrown at ukip/supporters/farage, but I guess it was too much to expect, it must be predjudice.
Maybe a passing mod could rename the thread to Breadvans Ukip hate thread or suchlike?
A bit much even for here?
Still, if you think it's offensive, feel free to report to the mods.
Maybe a passing mod could rename the thread to Breadvans Ukip hate thread or suchlike?
A bit much even for here?
Various hate fuelled leftists said:
Kippers
UKIP hang round with a bunch of neo Facist nut jobs
idiocy of some idiots
he willingly allies himself with Neo Fascist nutjobs
even a 'kipper doesn't need that written out in crayon,
Ridiculing hateful idiots is one (not the only) way of responding to them.
'Kippers like sunny holidays, but hate Jonny Foreigner
Farage's main vice is that he's an hypocrite - a systematically dishonest (second) career politician masquerading as a bloke in the pub.
+1 .....and UKIP are happy to be politically associated with this lot
I wonder how big a fan Farage is of Breivik, or perhaps even vice versa
Farage is ludicrous
Farage has a populist appeal to the gullible, the ill informed, and the angry who are easily taken in by alarmism and plain lying,
Remember, you're talking to 'kippers. Type slowly!
fruitloopy or hatey UKIP types
In the interests of inclusivity this post is written in crayon
oh yeah a real "everyman"
He would also attract plenty of BNP votes in the slums.
I would rather rub donkey jizz in my hair than vote UKIP
UKIP thrive on division, ignorance & fear.
the man himself is an utter charlatan, and probably one of the most dishonest professional politicians active in the UK today
When NF's plane crashed he was putting the Champagne on ice, and was very upset when the Nige emerged from the wreckage unscathed.
A glib talker
his giggling minions and somewhat unpalatable "allies of convenience" (Lega Nord et al)
I think that the word charlatan fits him
That makes him dishonest by any normal standard
They base their criticism fundamentally on the fact that the EU is "foreign", and that is what really trails the coat of UKIP and its benighted followers
a sort of quasi-religious cult, based on belief, not reason, and led by a typical cult leader: a charismatic fraud.
Think of the pub bore who now gets to be a well paid professional pub bore.
It is cruel and wrong to laugh at the afflicted, but that doesn't stop it being fun
they don't like the EU or immigrants and align themselves with some rather nasty people in the EU.
Of course if UKIPs chums at Lega Nord (to bring the thread back to its roots) had their way we'd be on a special white mans bus,
Lega Nord haven't changed theirs. UKIP is still in bed with them.
Farage lies on this issue, just as he lies on the membership fee.
he is the epitome of the careful spin merchant
if you follow a ridiculous creed, then expect to be ridiculed
the comments are dominated by UKIP acolytes.
There are a fair few racists, but leave them to fester in the places where racists fester (eg: UKIP discussion boards)
And you wonder where the swivel eyed loon tag comes from
Nige is the only party leader who has to spend quite so much time apologising for, disowning and expelling his followers.
a politician who makes mendacity an art form
He's a snake oil salesman.
UKIP as a passing protest fad/bunch of reactionary hateys.
The swivel-eyed frothy bitter aftertaste (not as apparent in the others) is also a deterrent.
UKIP attracts people who have old fashioned and bigoted ideas about nationality, sexuality, and so forth.
attempt of the PH UKIP supporters to suggest that UKIP is not a haven for people who have Alf Garnett mindset
denial about the ugly face of their faith
another isolated incident of a UKIP politician being suspected of fraud this week
UKIP seem to be attracting an exceptionally large number. [ of racists]
When even the founder of UKIP thinks they're racist
can all play "Looney or Fruitcake"
why would that make sts from UKIP any less deserving of scrutiny
laughable cohorts.
How many kinds of racist are you?
I reckon Farage is secretly funded by the United British Benefits Scroungers' Alliance to ensure attention is diverted away from them, and dirty Johnny Foreigner provides a convenient scapegoat.
UKIP members holding dreadful views
ignorant hateys
Let us assume that, despite the evidence to the contrary, UKIP is not a righty-hatey group
crayon may be a bit too advanced for you, and we may have to break the glass and deploy the emergency finger paints.
How does a UKIP supporter separate them self from the racists though? The party clearly attracts this element of society.
You're a low brow punter who can't even read properly
UKIP is talking to these far right groups
To be honest I thought most of that that was quite mild compared to some of the stuff I've read on the "lefty" bashing threads.UKIP hang round with a bunch of neo Facist nut jobs
idiocy of some idiots
he willingly allies himself with Neo Fascist nutjobs
even a 'kipper doesn't need that written out in crayon,
Ridiculing hateful idiots is one (not the only) way of responding to them.
'Kippers like sunny holidays, but hate Jonny Foreigner
Farage's main vice is that he's an hypocrite - a systematically dishonest (second) career politician masquerading as a bloke in the pub.
+1 .....and UKIP are happy to be politically associated with this lot
I wonder how big a fan Farage is of Breivik, or perhaps even vice versa
Farage is ludicrous
Farage has a populist appeal to the gullible, the ill informed, and the angry who are easily taken in by alarmism and plain lying,
Remember, you're talking to 'kippers. Type slowly!
fruitloopy or hatey UKIP types
In the interests of inclusivity this post is written in crayon
oh yeah a real "everyman"
He would also attract plenty of BNP votes in the slums.
I would rather rub donkey jizz in my hair than vote UKIP
UKIP thrive on division, ignorance & fear.
the man himself is an utter charlatan, and probably one of the most dishonest professional politicians active in the UK today
When NF's plane crashed he was putting the Champagne on ice, and was very upset when the Nige emerged from the wreckage unscathed.
A glib talker
his giggling minions and somewhat unpalatable "allies of convenience" (Lega Nord et al)
I think that the word charlatan fits him
That makes him dishonest by any normal standard
They base their criticism fundamentally on the fact that the EU is "foreign", and that is what really trails the coat of UKIP and its benighted followers
a sort of quasi-religious cult, based on belief, not reason, and led by a typical cult leader: a charismatic fraud.
Think of the pub bore who now gets to be a well paid professional pub bore.
It is cruel and wrong to laugh at the afflicted, but that doesn't stop it being fun
they don't like the EU or immigrants and align themselves with some rather nasty people in the EU.
Of course if UKIPs chums at Lega Nord (to bring the thread back to its roots) had their way we'd be on a special white mans bus,
Lega Nord haven't changed theirs. UKIP is still in bed with them.
Farage lies on this issue, just as he lies on the membership fee.
he is the epitome of the careful spin merchant
if you follow a ridiculous creed, then expect to be ridiculed
the comments are dominated by UKIP acolytes.
There are a fair few racists, but leave them to fester in the places where racists fester (eg: UKIP discussion boards)
And you wonder where the swivel eyed loon tag comes from
Nige is the only party leader who has to spend quite so much time apologising for, disowning and expelling his followers.
a politician who makes mendacity an art form
He's a snake oil salesman.
UKIP as a passing protest fad/bunch of reactionary hateys.
The swivel-eyed frothy bitter aftertaste (not as apparent in the others) is also a deterrent.
UKIP attracts people who have old fashioned and bigoted ideas about nationality, sexuality, and so forth.
attempt of the PH UKIP supporters to suggest that UKIP is not a haven for people who have Alf Garnett mindset
denial about the ugly face of their faith
another isolated incident of a UKIP politician being suspected of fraud this week
UKIP seem to be attracting an exceptionally large number. [ of racists]
When even the founder of UKIP thinks they're racist
can all play "Looney or Fruitcake"
why would that make s
ts from UKIP any less deserving of scrutinylaughable cohorts.
How many kinds of racist are you?
I reckon Farage is secretly funded by the United British Benefits Scroungers' Alliance to ensure attention is diverted away from them, and dirty Johnny Foreigner provides a convenient scapegoat.
UKIP members holding dreadful views
ignorant hateys
Let us assume that, despite the evidence to the contrary, UKIP is not a righty-hatey group
crayon may be a bit too advanced for you, and we may have to break the glass and deploy the emergency finger paints.
How does a UKIP supporter separate them self from the racists though? The party clearly attracts this element of society.
You're a low brow punter who can't even read properly
UKIP is talking to these far right groups
Still, if you think it's offensive, feel free to report to the mods.
At least two people who happen to be lawyers have posted on this thread so far as I know, but neither of them has called anyone else howwid. You may perhaps be misremembering the sarcastic question "did the howwid man on the Internet say howwid things about your Idol and upset you?", to which the answer, judging by the foot stamping, frothy outrage and bitter purple tears above, is yes.
Countdown said:
To be honest I thought most of that that was quite mild compared to some of the stuff I've read on the "lefty" bashing threads.
Still, if you think it's offensive, feel free to report to the mods.
Report to the mods? Still, if you think it's offensive, feel free to report to the mods.
What, that some lefties are eliminating all doubt as to their innate idiocy?
Far be it for me to deny them the platform or opportunity to do so and long may it continue, but I would still like answers to the question I've posed twice now without result: What is it they so hate about farage/ukip?
Specifically, whats the guy done to them to make them represent themselves so badly on a public forum in such a manner?
Id think the thread title is still misleading, it should "anti immigration stunt goes awry", ukip isnt anti immigrant.
Edited by 4v6 on Tuesday 15th April 07:57
Countdown said:
To be honest I thought most of that that was quite mild compared to some of the stuff I've read on the "lefty" bashing threads.
Still, if you think it's offensive, feel free to report to the mods.
Surely if the not-so-mild content in these lefty bashing threads (no links given but you could provide some at any time) was so bad you would have taken your own advice and reported the offending content to the mods.Still, if you think it's offensive, feel free to report to the mods.
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