What's Italian for 'kipper? Anti-migrant stunt goes awry.
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10 Pence Short said:
WinstonWolf said:
Yup, liking UKIP for defending the rights of Sikhs makes me a, well, a nice bloke.
Do you have autism? Only people with autism often don't spot when people are taking the piss out of them.
Still, at least I'm not bigoted
Please illustrate where I have been bigoted (and a hint- reasoned critique of something isn't bigoted).Do you have autism? Only people with autism often don't spot when people are taking the piss out of them.
Still, at least I'm not bigoted
Guam said:
steveT350C said:
10 Pence Short said:
I don't think I need to. I've finished conversing with bigots this evening, thank you.
Where are the bigots?big·ot
noun \ˈbi-gət\
: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)
Full Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb
Guam said:
Here we go with yet more daft "gotcha" type questions that are meaningles, I dont avoid anything unlike those on here who refuse to answer any direct questions (yes Zod I am looking at you).
I didn't say you said I was was religious either the only one with a problem reading is you, I was referring to your belief parody and pointing out that the only folk that should be directed to are the Tories, selective comprehension much?
The same questions could be addressed at every MEP from anywhere in Europe, the gist of your questions have been raised and answered numerous times by numerous other posters as you will full well know if you have been keeping up.
Having witnessed first hand the milking of the Gravy train following years working in Strasbourg I see no evidence of what you describe where Farage is concerned, feel free to post it up (and no the Times b
ks does not hack it sorry).
As for is there anything tangible or lack thereof, that is a nonsense question as they cant achieve what you suggest unless and until they had a majority herein parliament (or were in coalition) Meps cant do anything really tangible under the Eu structure in the main so that's a daft question anyhow.
In terms of his speeches in the chamber he has tangibly recounted his views and reflected in that chamber the views of many of us who agree with his posture, so for me that is pretty tangible. He hasn't just moved the debate forward on a single issue (who has the blinkers on now)? However as you raised it yes it certainly can in terms of a party with no MP's he has set the agenda on the EU issue as far as the public are concerned.
Now you may have a different opinion (to which you are fully entitled) however the above is mine and an answer to your "questions".
So, questions that you don't like you brand nonsense questions, you ask for proof but whatever proof is given in advance, you've decided that it's not good enough, and as a trump card you save your smileys. And either way, referendum or not it's all NF work. I didn't say you said I was was religious either the only one with a problem reading is you, I was referring to your belief parody and pointing out that the only folk that should be directed to are the Tories, selective comprehension much?
The same questions could be addressed at every MEP from anywhere in Europe, the gist of your questions have been raised and answered numerous times by numerous other posters as you will full well know if you have been keeping up.
Having witnessed first hand the milking of the Gravy train following years working in Strasbourg I see no evidence of what you describe where Farage is concerned, feel free to post it up (and no the Times b
ks does not hack it sorry).As for is there anything tangible or lack thereof, that is a nonsense question as they cant achieve what you suggest unless and until they had a majority herein parliament (or were in coalition) Meps cant do anything really tangible under the Eu structure in the main so that's a daft question anyhow.
In terms of his speeches in the chamber he has tangibly recounted his views and reflected in that chamber the views of many of us who agree with his posture, so for me that is pretty tangible. He hasn't just moved the debate forward on a single issue (who has the blinkers on now)? However as you raised it yes it certainly can in terms of a party with no MP's he has set the agenda on the EU issue as far as the public are concerned.
Now you may have a different opinion (to which you are fully entitled) however the above is mine and an answer to your "questions".
You are right that doesn't sound like something that blinkered person would type. By the by, aren't you the same person that, together with that bible belt guy, predicted disastrous election results for democrats in States? That crystal ball of yours might need polishing.
I'll leave you with this. Repeat after me; 15 years and counting.
edit All>I'll
Edited by league67 on Thursday 17th April 15:17
WinstonWolf said:
10 Pence Short said:
WinstonWolf said:
Yup, liking UKIP for defending the rights of Sikhs makes me a, well, a nice bloke.
Do you have autism? Only people with autism often don't spot when people are taking the piss out of them.
Still, at least I'm not bigoted
Please illustrate where I have been bigoted (and a hint- reasoned critique of something isn't bigoted).Do you have autism? Only people with autism often don't spot when people are taking the piss out of them.
Still, at least I'm not bigoted
Guam said:
steveT350C said:
10 Pence Short said:
I don't think I need to. I've finished conversing with bigots this evening, thank you.
Where are the bigots?big·ot
noun \ˈbi-gət\
: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)
Full Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb
Please illustrate where I have been bigoted.
AshVX220 said:
10 Pence Short said:
I asked you to show me where I have been bigoted. Not where your scout leader posted a definition of the word bigot.
Please illustrate where I have been bigoted.
You're being a Bigot toward everyone that supports and posts in favour of UKIP. Please illustrate where I have been bigoted.
HTH
You're welcome.
if the cap fits... Not just bigoted but prejudiced too.
Guam said:
Countdown said:
Guam said:
I doubt even Osborne can make up the 30% fall in living standards (in real terms) over the last couple of decades,
Could you explain how your 30% is calculated?Likely tomorrow now as she who must be obeyed wants the telly back
Edited by Guam on Wednesday 16th April 20:57
Countdown said:
Guam said:
Countdown said:
Guam said:
I doubt even Osborne can make up the 30% fall in living standards (in real terms) over the last couple of decades,
Could you explain how your 30% is calculated?Likely tomorrow now as she who must be obeyed wants the telly back
Edited by Guam on Wednesday 16th April 20:57
Guam said:
What bible belt guy, and what disastrous predictions there was a discussion regarding polling techniques and analysts methods on pre election polling, as I recall i finished with saying the results would depend on who could get the vote out, did they do better than some pollsters predicted, clearly they did, what that has to do with this I have no idea. seriously seek help.
I answered your questions as you requested, despite others having already answered earlier, now your complaint is what exactly?
I actually called them daft gotcha questions (which they were) not nonsense, notwithstanding that I still gave you the courtesy of a response (more than others on these threads would do).
Why so angry, poppet? I answered your questions as you requested, despite others having already answered earlier, now your complaint is what exactly?
I actually called them daft gotcha questions (which they were) not nonsense, notwithstanding that I still gave you the courtesy of a response (more than others on these threads would do).
You were predicting win for the republicans. And it has to do with your inability to predict anything, anything at all. I'll type slower next time.
You didn't answer my questions at all. Let me help you out. Answer to question would be something along the lines; 'If they fail to win enough seats at the election to, at least, form coalition, then they have failed. Because in that case they are irrelevant'.
I'm charitable so I'm even giving you the format of the required answer.
You call them 'daft gotcha' questions. They are nothing of the kind. In order to answer, you need to admit, to yourself, that Nige the Great is fallible. Your zealotry doesn't allow for that. After all, he is Churchill like to the faithful.
You keep speculating what others would or wouldn't do. Why?
Once again, very slowly, just for you; 'Fifteen years of getting paid and allowances and expenses, and the result is "advancing discussion"'.
WinstonWolf said:
Mine have...
That has to be the saddest thing that I've read recently. That is probably the result of; UK membership in EU, incompetent successive governments, lots of people who speak (or type) funny, nothing at all to do with your own failings. But fear no more, savior has arrived (after 15 year long journey through Europe), only the pesky establishment is keeping him from helping you.WinstonWolf said:
Mine have...
Why? Between 1975 and 2013 average real wages have increased by 47%. http://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/ukearncpi/r...
Not sure why yours would have fallen?
Countdown said:
WinstonWolf said:
Mine have...
Why? Between 1975 and 2013 average real wages have increased by 47%. http://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/ukearncpi/r...
Not sure why yours would have fallen?
Countdown said:
WinstonWolf said:
Mine have...
Why? Between 1975 and 2013 average real wages have increased by 47%. http://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/ukearncpi/r...
Not sure why yours would have fallen?
WinstonWolf said:
Countdown said:
WinstonWolf said:
Mine have...
Why? Between 1975 and 2013 average real wages have increased by 47%. http://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/ukearncpi/r...
Not sure why yours would have fallen?
Over 20 years real earnings have increased by 37% (so quicker per annum than if calculated over 30 years...;) )
So...why have yours fallen?
league67 said:
don4l said:
DonkeyApple said:
I'm not voting for a guy but for a party.
I've not accused anyone of not getting it either. In fact, the exact opposite, I have stated time and again that I don't get UKIP and asked questions to which no one seems able to answer.
On the matter of the EU the only party with any ability to offer the British people a say are the Tories. No one has been able to explain just how UKIP which is really just a one man party could deliver. At the same time no one can explain just what it is they are doing in Europe.
If you really believe that Dave Cameron will offer you a referendum on EU membership, then you're a little bit "special".I've not accused anyone of not getting it either. In fact, the exact opposite, I have stated time and again that I don't get UKIP and asked questions to which no one seems able to answer.
On the matter of the EU the only party with any ability to offer the British people a say are the Tories. No one has been able to explain just how UKIP which is really just a one man party could deliver. At the same time no one can explain just what it is they are doing in Europe.
He told us this before, and some people were stupid enough to believe it.
I'm a bit gobsmacked that anybody would be stupid enough to fall for the same s
te twice.UKIP have pushed him into a corner, and he has given a tighter guarantee. However he still has wriggle room. He has said that he will re-negotiate our membership terms and then offer us a referendum. He will fail to re-negotiate our terms and therefore he won't have to offer a referendum.
Dave is NOT going to offer a referendum.
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