Cyril Smith - the revellations
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Mail today raises the story of Sir Peter Hayman.
No doubt there will be some cock along shortly pointing out how depraved and lacking in integrity the Mail is. Which at times is true of almost all papers. Anyway link below.
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By way of other comment one cannot avoid comment that this much trumpeted investigation has had a handful of officers allocated. How many to Yewtree? How many to McCann enquiry?
Whole thing stinks worse than Fleetwood fish dock.
No doubt there will be some cock along shortly pointing out how depraved and lacking in integrity the Mail is. Which at times is true of almost all papers. Anyway link below.
link
By way of other comment one cannot avoid comment that this much trumpeted investigation has had a handful of officers allocated. How many to Yewtree? How many to McCann enquiry?
Whole thing stinks worse than Fleetwood fish dock.
'More than 10' politicians on list held by police investigating Westminster 'paedophile ring'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10947...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10947...
In my further view there is an excellent reason for the reluctance, nay, refusal, to apply the same vigour to 'insiders' behaviour.
Ever wondered why notables suddenly suffer an outbreak of forgetfulness/pang of conscience/desire to spend more time gardening? They have been reminded that evidence of their proclivities exists in a safely remote very secret place and that it can easily be leaked by accidental download to a crusading media sewer. This ensures compliance in critical matters until the victims death and is worth far more than wasting it on public appetites for gossip. Petard and hoisted come to mind. Just another layer in our Hope and Glory.
Now apply that to what happened over Juncker and the mystery about why so many voted for such a man.
Ever wondered why notables suddenly suffer an outbreak of forgetfulness/pang of conscience/desire to spend more time gardening? They have been reminded that evidence of their proclivities exists in a safely remote very secret place and that it can easily be leaked by accidental download to a crusading media sewer. This ensures compliance in critical matters until the victims death and is worth far more than wasting it on public appetites for gossip. Petard and hoisted come to mind. Just another layer in our Hope and Glory.
Now apply that to what happened over Juncker and the mystery about why so many voted for such a man.
It's being reported that many of the documents relating to cases like this have been.....ahem......'lost or destroyed'
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/05/lo...
convenient for some...........a bit like his tonynes's expenses documents all over again.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/05/lo...
convenient for some...........a bit like his tonynes's expenses documents all over again.
Possibly not directly relevant, but this appeared on BBC News just now...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28181045
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28181045
Home Office has just coughed to losing or destroying the dossier relating to incidents 1979 to 1999
Telegraph said:
The paedophile scandal engulfing Westminster deepened after the Home Office confessed to losing or destroying 114 “potentially relevant” files.
The lost files are part of an investigation into the handling of a dossier about child abuse allegations presented to Leon Brittan, the former home secretary.
The dossier, compiled by Geoffrey Dickens, the late Conservative MP, is said to implicate political figures at the heart of national life.
A review by the Home Office last year into its handling of the dossier found that information it had received between 1979 and 1999 had been passed to the appropriate authorities.
But Mark Sedwill, permanent secretary to the Home Office, has now admitted for the first time that his department had destroyed, lost or simply “not found” 114 “potentially relevant files”
He also said four new possible leads about child abuse have now been passed on to Scotland Yard. A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Any relevant material that is submitted to us will be dealt with as appropriate."
A senior Tory MP and former children’s minister last night accused the Home Office of a cover-up. Now Theresa May, the Home Secretary, is under pressure to “get involved” in establishing what happened to the missing records. She will face demands in the House of Commons tomorrow to explain how her department came to lose the documents.
full articleThe lost files are part of an investigation into the handling of a dossier about child abuse allegations presented to Leon Brittan, the former home secretary.
The dossier, compiled by Geoffrey Dickens, the late Conservative MP, is said to implicate political figures at the heart of national life.
A review by the Home Office last year into its handling of the dossier found that information it had received between 1979 and 1999 had been passed to the appropriate authorities.
But Mark Sedwill, permanent secretary to the Home Office, has now admitted for the first time that his department had destroyed, lost or simply “not found” 114 “potentially relevant files”
He also said four new possible leads about child abuse have now been passed on to Scotland Yard. A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Any relevant material that is submitted to us will be dealt with as appropriate."
A senior Tory MP and former children’s minister last night accused the Home Office of a cover-up. Now Theresa May, the Home Secretary, is under pressure to “get involved” in establishing what happened to the missing records. She will face demands in the House of Commons tomorrow to explain how her department came to lose the documents.
pip t said:
Possibly not directly relevant, but this appeared on BBC News just now...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28181045
That's all over the MoS today (that public-spirited crusading media asset - that's not a joke, I mean it).http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28181045
Sadly, it's from 1965 when he was in his twenties and the girl (what? Girl? Can't they do better than that?) was 19. It's getting ridiculous now. Obviously a hare has been set a-running.
Thorodin said:
That's all over the MoS today (that public-spirited crusading media asset - that's not a joke, I mean it).
Sadly, it's from 1965 when he was in his twenties and the girl (what? Girl? Can't they do better than that?) was 19. It's getting ridiculous now. Obviously a hare has been set a-running.
There are no age limits to rape, it's not always young under-age girls.Sadly, it's from 1965 when he was in his twenties and the girl (what? Girl? Can't they do better than that?) was 19. It's getting ridiculous now. Obviously a hare has been set a-running.
FourWheelDrift said:
There are no age limits to rape, it's not always young under-age girls.
Of course not, I thought it was obvious I was not suggesting it was. There's a huge difference however between this and elderly perverts serially abusing children. The police and CPS know full well this does not have legs but will serve to divert attention from deeper issues. Expect more.
FiF said:
Losing one file is am accident, losing 116 stinks to high heaven. Bearing in mind back then they would have been physical files not electronic - it would have taken some effort to lose that lot. Just a good job magaluf teen sex shenanigans are far more front page worthy......
number 46 said:
Why is Melllor so keen to stick up fir Brittan I wonder?????
I saw him on Sky News earlier.So the only 'customer' of Elm House was that Priest from Norfolk that officiated at Frank Bruno's wedding? It's nonce sense to suggest that he was the only chap using that place.
Paedophiles exist in other walks of life and professions, but it doesn't figure in the political class because they're different?
Eddw86 said:
FiF said:
Losing one file is am accident, losing 116 stinks to high heaven. Bearing in mind back then they would have been physical files not electronic - it would have taken some effort to lose that lot. Just a good job magaluf teen sex shenanigans are far more front page worthy......
All we need now is a Witchfinder, sorry, Noncefinder, General seat in the cabinet.
Nick Clegg: 'Nothing more revolting than people in power working with each other, possibly covering up'
I didn't think I could think anyless about Clegg and the LDs, but the hypocracy in this statement is astonishing. Smith, Rennard, Hancock.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28189072
I didn't think I could think anyless about Clegg and the LDs, but the hypocracy in this statement is astonishing. Smith, Rennard, Hancock.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28189072
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