Cyril Smith - the revellations

[Vaud]

dudleybloke said:

But it does help explain the "national security" issue about the fat nonce.

Possibly. It's just so surrounded with lizard man type conspiracies that it is hard to pick out the facts from the round objects.

[rover 623gsi]

carinaman said:

Is it me, or has the mainstream media not covered that vote or the results at all?

it certainly seems that way - quite remarkable

[dudleybloke]

rover 623gsi said:

carinaman said:

Is it me, or has the mainstream media not covered that vote or the results at all?

it certainly seems that way - quite remarkable

It's no surprise.

[carinaman]

So we pay our BBC licence fee not to be bothered by unimportant stuff like that?

[wc98]

carinaman said:

So we pay our BBC licence fee not to be bothered by unimportant stuff like that?

it would appear so .birds of a feather etc.

[Martin4x4]

carinaman said:

Is it me, or has the mainstream media not covered that vote or the results at all?

They work for you has covered this and its list of those that voted for a de-facto cover up is easy to copy.

Edited by Martin4x4 on Tuesday 24th March 17:32

[carinaman]

I am really disappointed at a couple of names that voted against.

I'm heartened that David Davis didn't vote. But then again neither did Cameron or Osborne.

[FiF]

Disappointed to find Rees-Mogg voted against, as did my own MP.

[Matt p]

Bit pissed the spineless bellend from South Beds voted no.

Edit to add - that's my Tory vote lost this may.

[DuncanM]

Yep, my MP voted against too, and it's a pretty damning outlook for the Tories and Lib Dems.

If a big enough thing was made of this, the Tory and Lib Dem votes could go through the floor and Labour could win in a landslide.

I'm not saying that's a good thing though, the whole lot of them are a shower IMO.

Party Politics needs to die a death.

[pingu393]

As I understand it Theresa May said that she hopes that no police officer would be charged under the OSA for disclosing information, yet she voted against the guarantee that they wouldn't.

Is this correct?

Do we know the reason for so many Noes? Sometimes they vote No because they don't believe the law is strong enough. /<benefit of doubt>

[carinaman]

pingu393 said:

As I understand it Theresa May said that she hopes that no police officer would be charged under the OSA for disclosing information, yet she voted against the guarantee that they wouldn't.

Is this correct?

That's my understanding.

I'm a bit miffed that Rob Wilson MP for Reading East voted for it. I thought he was getting it in the neck from Lord Paten and Chief Constable Sara Thornton, the soon to be boss of whatever replaces ACPO, for making a fuss about child sexual abuse and Jimmy Savile.

Norman Lamb (Lib Dem) Health Minister and MP for part of Norfolk did not vote. I'm not sure if that makes him more or less NFN.

[pingu393]

I've just e-mailed my MP (Jessica Lee (C)) and asked the simple question:

Pingu's Letter To MP said:

Please explain your reasons for voting No to the Official Secrets Act amendment on 23 Feb 2015.

Wait Out

[carinaman]

Thank you Pingu.

I don't Tweet. Is that question within the Twitter message character limit?

It would be simple for people bothered to Tweet their MPs that question?

[pingu393]

carinaman said:

Thank you Pingu.

I don't Tweet. Is that question within the Twitter message character limit?

It would be simple for people bothered to Tweet their MPs that question?

Martin4x4 said:

carinaman said:

Is it me, or has the mainstream media not covered that vote or the results at all?

They work for you has covered this and its list of those that voted for a de-facto cover up is easy to copy.

Edited by Martin4x4 on Tuesday 24th March 17:32

I used the link in Martin's post to view the voting list, selected my MP and used the contact link on her page. It was very easy.

[carinaman]

https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-and-theresa...

[wc98]

carinaman said:

https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-and-theresa...

signed

[carinaman]

I was confused over the time line on the vote to exempt former police officers from the Official Secrets Act. MP Mann tweeted about it recently but the vote was on 23 Feb. 2015. That vote didn't get much coverage then either and then a couple of weeks ago, after that vote Theresa May is saying that she 'hoped' former officers that came forward wouldn't get prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act. It's all a bit frown inducing.

[Vaud]

carinaman said:

then a couple of weeks ago, after that vote Theresa May is saying that she 'hoped' former officers that came forward wouldn't get prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act. It's all a bit frown inducing.

Would you prefer that politicians intervened and override the judiciary? If the law is crap, ok, change the law, but it is a tricky place for any Home Sec to say they will do anything other than "hope". Rightful separation of powers?

[carinaman]

In March Theresa May said she 'hoped' no former officers coming forward with evidence about child sexual abuse got done under the Official Secrets Act.

But on the 23 Feb. 2015 she voted against an amendment that would give officers the immunity from prosecution under the Official Secrets Act she 'hoped' they'd get a few weeks later in March 2015:

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5530/how-mps-vot...

And she's said she cares deeply about children sexually abused and has met with victims twice?

If Theresa May wanted former officers with information on historic sex crimes against children to be exempt from being prosecuted for their revelations under the Official Secrets Act why didn't she vote for it on 23 Feb. 2015?

Perhaps I am missing something, but she seems to be saying she 'hopes' for one thing, but only a few weeks previously she voted against the thing she's hoping for?