Cyril Smith - the revellations

[Vaud]

Art0ir said:

Horrendous

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ir...

Interesting that he could remember the Waterford crystal, but not how old he was? Mind blanking it out, or hazy details? By 14/15/16 can't most people connect an event as horrific as that to other life events to pin point the year?

[dudleybloke]

http://youtu.be/gFC8k0VI9DQ

UK column special report.

[carinaman]

dudleybloke said:

http://youtu.be/gFC8k0VI9DQ

UK column special report.

I'm really not sure what to make of that.

1. BBC Radio 4 did a programme about Council insurers having to pay out for child sexual abuse to children in their care. There's a bit of that in the Melanie Shaw back story, Notts., or their insurers, were paying out and then a Judge stopped them doing that reportedly.

So she's being targeted either because they don't want to pay her or any information she may have would be bad news for their insurers and people in office now?

She knows too much?

Such an idea seems plausible after the way the Council behaved in Rotherham trying to take out injunctions against The Times to get them to not report it? Seems plausible as PCC Shaun Wright previously had responsibility for Child Social Services in Rotherham just as PCC Paddy Tipping was in Notts. before he became PCC? They're both Labour.

2. Danczuk has had his wheel nuts loosened off? I think his wife Tweeted an image of a Honda alloy wheel with a flat tyre. I think I spotted one locking wheel nut. Janet Street Porter and PCC Paddy Tipping are both high up in the Rambler's Assoc. and Mrs Danczuk came in for some unpleasantness on Janet Street Porter's TV programme?

3. The UK Column are getting leads from people within the authorities and retired police officers? But Exaro have referred to misleading VIP Paedo stories being planted in the mainstream media, so what to believe?

4. There's a plan to stoke civil unrest over child sexual abuse?

Where does that sit with the Tories and Lib Dems voting not to make former police officers with information about historic sexual abuse cases exempt from the Official Secrets Act in late Feb.?

5. Civil unrest is to be stoked by making it a Muslim v Others issue? Where does that sit with the police doing their best Keystone Cops Noddiness over the letters home to the three School girls in Syria?

Surely it would be fairly easy to stop such people getting abroad just implementing similar rules as implemented in Access Control Lists?

6. Gove's piece about Christianity and faith was more than just a conveniently timed piece at Easter before an election to appeal to Christians or those wanting to send a signal about their concerns about Islam?

7. CMD is using military police for protection? That could be as a consequence of the Andrew Mitchell silliness?



I'd find it a lot easier to dismiss all of that if it wasn't for the Common Purpose mutual backslappers making it so obvious.

If Common Purpose is so benign what's with the secrecy and Chatham House rules and where does that sit with the peddlers of the Snooper's Charter saying 'If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide'?

[dudleybloke]

Well a friend of mine is meeting Farrage tonight and iv given her a couple of questions to ask about CSA and common purpose.

[carinaman]

Vaud said:

Art0ir said:

Horrendous

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ir...

Interesting that he could remember the Waterford crystal, but not how old he was? Mind blanking it out, or hazy details? By 14/15/16 can't most people connect an event as horrific as that to other life events to pin point the year?

Does Mr Kerr seem plausible?:

http://www.channel4.com/news/mi5-kincora-richard-k...

Edited by carinaman on Tuesday 7th April 20:41

[pingu393]

Pingu's Letter To MP said:

Please explain your reasons for voting No to the Official Secrets Act amendment on 23 Feb 2015.

Reply answered on 25 March.



So, the ball has been placed in Justice Goddard's court for her to make an immunity from prosecution request from the Attorney General, which will, hopefully, be granted.

Personally, I think this is probably the correct way to do it - on a case-by-case basis.

[carinaman]

Thanks for the update Pingu.

[carinaman]

Some Twitter mumbling about that Official Secrets Act vote today:

https://twitter.com/ExaroNews/status/5869415703494...

[anonymous-user]

Probably as good here as anywhere else.

Prosecuting Greville Janner 'not in the public interest'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershir...



Depressing.

[wc98]

desolate said:

Probably as good here as anywhere else.

Prosecuting Greville Janner 'not in the public interest'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershir...



Depressing.

particularly when the force that investigated him still think it is a good idea he is prosecuted,and there are plenty people that think the dementia may not be as bad as is claimed.

[anonymous-user]

Labour, Liberal, Tory.

Just shows they have been having a party at our expense and taking the piss for years.

[dudleybloke]

wc98 said:

desolate said:

Probably as good here as anywhere else.

Prosecuting Greville Janner 'not in the public interest'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershir...



Depressing.

particularly when the force that investigated him still think it is a good idea he is prosecuted,and there are plenty people that think the dementia may not be as bad as is claimed.

Age or infirmity are no bar from prosecution..... Grenville Janner.
So his own rules don't apply to him. fking hypercritical noncey .

[BlackLabel]

So this (alleged) paedophile cannot be brought to justice because of his health yet can still sit in parliament and make laws for the rest of us.

[BlackLabel]

Keith Vaz speaking about his friend in parliament.



https://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/kei...

In the recent past Vaz has called Alison Saunders, the most senior prosecutor in England and Wales, to his select committee to explain why she is not prosecuting X, Y or Z. I wonder if he will do the same in this case.

[Digga]

BlackLabel said:

So this (alleged) paedophile cannot be brought to justice because of his health yet can still sit in parliament and make laws for the rest of us.

Reminds me of the former Stafford health exec who claimed to be too ill to attend the trail regarding Stafford Hospital but then, miraculously, is well enough to pop out of another NHS rabbit-hole (Shrops this time) with another, nice, gold-plated, job.

[dudleybloke]

https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2015/04...

[BlackLabel]

dudleybloke said:

https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2015/04...

Not sure we can take that blog seriously - it's all a bit David Icke and very anti-Jewish.

Edited by BlackLabel on Thursday 16th April 13:03

[anonymous-user]

BlackLabel said:

A tad anti-Jewish, and a bit crazy tbh.

Yep - reads a bit like some posts on PH, lots of assertions and suppositions presented as facts.


Just read an interesting post somewhere - if he is deemed unfit for trial maybe we should get ATOS to review the matter?

Notwithstanding some of the crazier conspiracy theories, all does seem like "they are all in it together"

[onyx39]

this is one of the most disgusting cases of "not what you know, it's who you know" or more importantly, who you are, I have ever seen.
Am I right in saying that the allegation first surfaced in 1991? So, we string people along till he's an old man with dementia and say "sorry to ill to prosecute"
Absolutely stinks.

[carinaman]

I tuned into Radio 4's PM while they were discussing Janner. I thought PM was back on form with how they covered it and having Simon Danczuk on.

It does remind me of May appointing Butler-Closed-Shop to chair her over arching Paedo inquiry.