Operation Trojan Horse
Discussion
gjf764 said:
Funk said:
Whilst the school is funded by public money, they can do what they're f
king told.
I agree with you but I really don't think that's how it works!king told.The pupils are very happy with the school, the parents think it's wonderful. It's openly Muslim. Surely, the pragmatic way to deal with this is to just cut the state funding and let them get on with it?
Funk said:
Whilst the school is funded by public money, they can do what they're fking told.
To fking told.king right.. how many other Islamic schools are we paying for? Drives me nuts. Finally it seems that people are realising the extent of these problems. Check out some of the replies in the Telegraph<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10870590/Key-figure-in-Trojan-Horse-plot-is-an-Ofsted-inspector.html#disqus_thread>
Pickled Piper said:
gjf764 said:
Funk said:
Whilst the school is funded by public money, they can do what they're fking told.
I agree with you but I really don't think that's how it works!king told.The pupils are very happy with the school, the parents think it's wonderful. It's openly Muslim. Surely, the pragmatic way to deal with this is to just cut the state funding and let them get on with it?
They have a massive 'education' program worldwide and fund facilities and build new mosques etc.. across the globe... providing the end users abide by their rules.
Asterix said:
Pickled Piper said:
gjf764 said:
Funk said:
Whilst the school is funded by public money, they can do what they're fking told.
I agree with you but I really don't think that's how it works!king told.The pupils are very happy with the school, the parents think it's wonderful. It's openly Muslim. Surely, the pragmatic way to deal with this is to just cut the state funding and let them get on with it?
They have a massive 'education' program worldwide and fund facilities and build new mosques etc.. across the globe... providing the end users abide by their rules.
c7xlg said:
Why can't we just ban all religious schools? And all religious comment/teaching other than in history classes? ? For once the french have something right...
...and the Spanish, Dutch, Germans, Americans.............IMHO any school with a religious bias should follow the governments requirements for education...and get no state funding. State schools should be secular and they then get state funding.
If you want to worship sky fairies do it in your own time and at your expense.
It gets better, one of the implicated people is also an Ofsted inspector.
Key figure in 'Trojan Horse' plot is an Ofsted inspector
Key figure in 'Trojan Horse' plot is an Ofsted inspector
QuantumTokoloshi said:
It gets better, one of the implicated people is also an Ofsted inspector.
Key figure in 'Trojan Horse' plot is an Ofsted inspector
There is more to come. Once someone has looked into where his Companies derive their revenue from. Also, I doubt very much that the payments made to "consultants" for services by the Governors at the suspect schools will stand up to any detail scrutiny. Key figure in 'Trojan Horse' plot is an Ofsted inspector
If you have had any involvement with schooling in the West Midlands over the last ten years, none of this will come as a surprise. The surprise is how much of it has been ignored and denied over the years in the interests of "community relations" and "Political Correctness".
Wait for more cries of Islamaphobia! once the Accountants start going through the books.
Pickled Piper said:
There is more to come. Once someone has looked into where his Companies derive their revenue from. Also, I doubt very much that the payments made to "consultants" for services by the Governors at the suspect schools will stand up to any detail scrutiny.
If you have had any involvement with schooling in the West Midlands over the last ten years, none of this will come as a surprise. The surprise is how much of it has been ignored and denied over the years in the interests of "community relations" and "Political Correctness".
Wait for more cries of Islamaphobia! once the Accountants start going through the books.
I can't understand what the fIf you have had any involvement with schooling in the West Midlands over the last ten years, none of this will come as a surprise. The surprise is how much of it has been ignored and denied over the years in the interests of "community relations" and "Political Correctness".
Wait for more cries of Islamaphobia! once the Accountants start going through the books.
k went wrong. Terrorists fly a bunch of planes into the Twin Towers, the 'war on terrorism' begins, and ten plus years later we're now afraid to tackle any issues that involve Islam or Muslims for fear of offending people. How did that happen?Oakey said:
Pickled Piper said:
There is more to come. Once someone has looked into where his Companies derive their revenue from. Also, I doubt very much that the payments made to "consultants" for services by the Governors at the suspect schools will stand up to any detail scrutiny.
If you have had any involvement with schooling in the West Midlands over the last ten years, none of this will come as a surprise. The surprise is how much of it has been ignored and denied over the years in the interests of "community relations" and "Political Correctness".
Wait for more cries of Islamaphobia! once the Accountants start going through the books.
I can't understand what the fIf you have had any involvement with schooling in the West Midlands over the last ten years, none of this will come as a surprise. The surprise is how much of it has been ignored and denied over the years in the interests of "community relations" and "Political Correctness".
Wait for more cries of Islamaphobia! once the Accountants start going through the books.
k went wrong. Terrorists fly a bunch of planes into the Twin Towers, the 'war on terrorism' begins, and ten plus years later we're now afraid to tackle any issues that involve Islam or Muslims for fear of offending people. How did that happen?Marlin45 said:
...and the Spanish, Dutch, Germans, Americans.............
IMHO any school with a religious bias should follow the governments requirements for education...and get no state funding. State schools should be secular and they then get state funding.
If you want to worship sky fairies do it in your own time and at your expense.
America may have constitutional seperation but Texas chooses the science books and Creation seems to be more popular than evolution...IMHO any school with a religious bias should follow the governments requirements for education...and get no state funding. State schools should be secular and they then get state funding.
If you want to worship sky fairies do it in your own time and at your expense.
Pickled Piper said:
There is more to come. Once someone has looked into where his Companies derive their revenue from. Also, I doubt very much that the payments made to "consultants" for services by the Governors at the suspect schools will stand up to any detail scrutiny.
If you have had any involvement with schooling in the West Midlands over the last ten years, none of this will come as a surprise. The surprise is how much of it has been ignored and denied over the years in the interests of "community relations" and "Political Correctness".
Wait for more cries of Islamaphobia! once the Accountants start going through the books.
The issues with blatant "unaccounted for expenditure" and cronyism are not limited to the Midlands. My wife has seen very similar occurrences at a number of schools she has taught at, or been a governor, in Berkshire and Hampshire.If you have had any involvement with schooling in the West Midlands over the last ten years, none of this will come as a surprise. The surprise is how much of it has been ignored and denied over the years in the interests of "community relations" and "Political Correctness".
Wait for more cries of Islamaphobia! once the Accountants start going through the books.
Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Tuesday 3rd June 13:12
Asterix said:
Oakey said:
Pickled Piper said:
There is more to come. Once someone has looked into where his Companies derive their revenue from. Also, I doubt very much that the payments made to "consultants" for services by the Governors at the suspect schools will stand up to any detail scrutiny.
If you have had any involvement with schooling in the West Midlands over the last ten years, none of this will come as a surprise. The surprise is how much of it has been ignored and denied over the years in the interests of "community relations" and "Political Correctness".
Wait for more cries of Islamaphobia! once the Accountants start going through the books.
I can't understand what the fIf you have had any involvement with schooling in the West Midlands over the last ten years, none of this will come as a surprise. The surprise is how much of it has been ignored and denied over the years in the interests of "community relations" and "Political Correctness".
Wait for more cries of Islamaphobia! once the Accountants start going through the books.
k went wrong. Terrorists fly a bunch of planes into the Twin Towers, the 'war on terrorism' begins, and ten plus years later we're now afraid to tackle any issues that involve Islam or Muslims for fear of offending people. How did that happen?I've had a good read of this and it is quite interesting but 'personally' I do think that it seems to be blown out of proportion.
I mean it started off with a letter which dates back to when?
I'm actually surprised with the amount of man power thrown at this; seems like Ofsted and DofE have gone in waging war on the schools which to me is a bit extreme. If only they had this approach for the whole of the UK education system then most kids would grow up with a decent education (the recent pupil/teacher stabbing in Leeds comes to mind as the school had a horrendous number of incidents including staff attacks/weaponry - why weren't Ofsted sorting that school out?)
Interesting to see what the report comes out with but I'm guessing it'll be something along the lines of 'no Muslim takeover plot BUT most of the schools investigated need major reforms as the education/practices are piss poor'
And then it calms down again for 6 months!
I mean it started off with a letter which dates back to when?
I'm actually surprised with the amount of man power thrown at this; seems like Ofsted and DofE have gone in waging war on the schools which to me is a bit extreme. If only they had this approach for the whole of the UK education system then most kids would grow up with a decent education (the recent pupil/teacher stabbing in Leeds comes to mind as the school had a horrendous number of incidents including staff attacks/weaponry - why weren't Ofsted sorting that school out?)
Interesting to see what the report comes out with but I'm guessing it'll be something along the lines of 'no Muslim takeover plot BUT most of the schools investigated need major reforms as the education/practices are piss poor'
And then it calms down again for 6 months!
SR7492 said:
I've had a good read of this and it is quite interesting but 'personally' I do think that it seems to be blown out of proportion.
Interesting to see what the report comes out with but I'm guessing it'll be something along the lines of 'no Muslim takeover plot
Interesting to see what the report comes out with but I'm guessing it'll be something along the lines of 'no Muslim takeover plot
Do wonder if the Muslim perspective on this is different to the rest of the population?
QuantumTokoloshi said:
It gets better, one of the implicated people is also an Ofsted inspector.
Key figure in 'Trojan Horse' plot is an Ofsted inspector
I'm going to make the not very bold prediction that we'll see islamists infiltrate more and more of our public institutions in the future. I do not think this will end well.Key figure in 'Trojan Horse' plot is an Ofsted inspector
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