Saint Nigel with his nose in the trough
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Andy Zarse said:
TKF said:
Phew! Glad we got that one sorted and it's clear that St Nige is all above board and correct with only our interests at heart.
Can we go back to discussing Muslims and BBC now?
Earlier in the thread...Can we go back to discussing Muslims and BBC now?
10 Pence Short said:
It would make a refreshing change if people either defended the action, admitted it was wrong or provided some other explanation as to why it is ok, instead of simply saying "Oi! Look over there instead"!
Petard; hoist.Bacon Is Proof said:
DAVEVO9 said:
http://www.ukip.org/times_story_falls_apart_as_key...
Times story falls apart as key source reveals his responses were distorted by the paper
David Samuel- Camps who was quoted in The Times smear piece today has written to the paper making clear that the story has distorted his responses to the questions he was posed. We publish his full unabridged letter below:
"I am extremely concerned that in your report you have distorted my responses to your questions regarding the Lyminster office costs.
"On the front page you quote me as stating that the costs were £3000 per year. This is grossly incorrect. I told you that the previous manager had tied the office into some supply contracts and as a result the monthly costs were some £2000. I told you several times that I eventually reduced the costs to £700 per month. When I went to school we were taught the times tables and that £700 times 12 equals £8400 (which is not too far removed from Mr Farage’s £1000 per month) so where on earth did you come up with a figure of £3000?
"At no time did I say that “electricity, heating, and business rates at the office totalled less than £250 a month”. I told you that I could not remember the individual amounts as it was over four years ago but they would have been in the region of £200 each.
"Later, you then contradict yourselves by quoting me as saying that the costs were £700 per month - which is correct. You asked me a number of times about the £700/month figure which I confirmed several times; again I have to ask how does £700 per month equate to £3000 per year? I should also point out that our conversations were witnessed.
"To the best of knowledge and belief I was completely honest in my answers and resent the fact that those answers have been completely distorted. I did warn you that there is a small minority who are 'mischief makers' – one in particular who would go to any lengths to destroy Mr Farage’s reputation.
"I expect you to publish corrections as outlined above.
"Finally, I should point out that the Lyminster is nowhere near Bognor Regis; it is on the outskirts of Littlehampton, a fact that could have been verified by looking at an AA road atlas!"
David Samuel-Camps BA (Hons) Dip. PA
Times story falls apart as key source reveals his responses were distorted by the paper
David Samuel- Camps who was quoted in The Times smear piece today has written to the paper making clear that the story has distorted his responses to the questions he was posed. We publish his full unabridged letter below:
"I am extremely concerned that in your report you have distorted my responses to your questions regarding the Lyminster office costs.
"On the front page you quote me as stating that the costs were £3000 per year. This is grossly incorrect. I told you that the previous manager had tied the office into some supply contracts and as a result the monthly costs were some £2000. I told you several times that I eventually reduced the costs to £700 per month. When I went to school we were taught the times tables and that £700 times 12 equals £8400 (which is not too far removed from Mr Farage’s £1000 per month) so where on earth did you come up with a figure of £3000?
"At no time did I say that “electricity, heating, and business rates at the office totalled less than £250 a month”. I told you that I could not remember the individual amounts as it was over four years ago but they would have been in the region of £200 each.
"Later, you then contradict yourselves by quoting me as saying that the costs were £700 per month - which is correct. You asked me a number of times about the £700/month figure which I confirmed several times; again I have to ask how does £700 per month equate to £3000 per year? I should also point out that our conversations were witnessed.
"To the best of knowledge and belief I was completely honest in my answers and resent the fact that those answers have been completely distorted. I did warn you that there is a small minority who are 'mischief makers' – one in particular who would go to any lengths to destroy Mr Farage’s reputation.
"I expect you to publish corrections as outlined above.
"Finally, I should point out that the Lyminster is nowhere near Bognor Regis; it is on the outskirts of Littlehampton, a fact that could have been verified by looking at an AA road atlas!"
David Samuel-Camps BA (Hons) Dip. PA
Farage Tailor to the Emporer said:
"I'm not defending the system, I want it to end but I get given, as does every other British MEP, £3,850, every month to spend in the UK and in my constituency as I see fit...We do not have to provide any receipts, any explanation for how that money is spent"
Want it to end? Yeah, right you do.Chinny Reck-on.
Esseesse said:
Previously I have voted Conservative. However with each smear you read against Farage/UKIP the more certain I am that I will not vote for any of the 3 main parties even if there was no UKIP candidate to vote for.
Join Von Farage's Express... it's rolling faster by the day!I got on board 4 years ago. Carriages are now filling up.
We AIN'T getting off!
Unless CMD gets it in the back, but even then we might just steam on ahead.
10 Pence Short said:
Farage Tailor to the Emporer said:
"I'm not defending the system, I want it to end but I get given, as does every other British MEP, £3,850, every month to spend in the UK and in my constituency as I see fit...We do not have to provide any receipts, any explanation for how that money is spent"
Want it to end? Yeah, right you do.Chinny Reck-on.
The EU's been a nice little post-UK political bolthole for many of the 'great and good' of UK politics, so you can understand their reticence.
Digga said:
I do actually believe him on that count. I believe he wants a smaller, less bureaucratic, less interfering Europe as a matter of principle. Furthermore, he is not the only MEP who thinks this way, it's just the media, it appears, would like us to think so.
The EU's been a nice little post-UK political bolthole for many of the 'great and good' of UK politics, so you can understand their reticence.
What is it about Farage's actions that makes you think he's any different from the other gravy-trainers?The EU's been a nice little post-UK political bolthole for many of the 'great and good' of UK politics, so you can understand their reticence.
TKF said:
Andy Zarse said:
TKF said:
Phew! Glad we got that one sorted and it's clear that St Nige is all above board and correct with only our interests at heart.
Can we go back to discussing Muslims and BBC now?
Earlier in the thread...Can we go back to discussing Muslims and BBC now?
10 Pence Short said:
It would make a refreshing change if people either defended the action, admitted it was wrong or provided some other explanation as to why it is ok, instead of simply saying "Oi! Look over there instead"!
Petard; hoist.
t!10 Pence Short said:
otolith said:
His ongoing attempts to sabotage the gravy train might be a clue.
Which attempts? I assume that he is aware that we won't retain any MEPs if that happens.
10 Pence Short said:
otolith said:
His ongoing attempts to sabotage the gravy train might be a clue.
Which attempts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyq7WRr_GPg
otolith said:
He's the leader of a political party which is campaigning for a referendum on EU membership with the objective of securing secession from the union.
I assume that he is aware that we won't retain any MEPs if that happens.
No actual stuff that he's done, then. No actual actions. Just words. And not turning up in return for his £3000+ allowance every month.I assume that he is aware that we won't retain any MEPs if that happens.
Nothing. Nada.
And you all believe him?
Wow.
otolith said:
Is running a political party and a campaign not actual stuff? Would you rather he resorted to direct action, or would you then be saying that he should engage with the democratic process?
No! Anyone with a political party has to run it.What actual actions have UKIP actually done, to demonstrate their commitment to what they say they want?
What. Have. They. Done?
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