Saint Nigel with his nose in the trough

[Scuffers]

Zod said:

but that's the whole problem; he is too much of a coward to tell us his opinion!

no, your just too blinkered to listen to what he has to say.

[FiF]

Scuffers said:

Zod said:

but that's the whole problem; he is too much of a coward to tell us his opinion!

no, your just too blinkered to listen to what he has to say.

I have to say Zod he does have a point. He has covered it in various ways in various interviews yet you seem to wish to concentrate on one interview where the interrogator either had an agenda or wished to up his dog with a bone credentials.

It's like Nick Robinson's interview yesterday. I'm afraid I just laughed at him.

[MOTORVATOR]

Zod said:

MOTORVATOR said:

Possibly because he has the conviction to stand behind his own opinions rather than towing a line on a non issue just to suit you?

I admire people like that rather than those that tell you what you want to hear in order to secure a vote regardless of their own beliefs.

but that's the whole problem; he is too much of a coward to tell us his opinion!

Then perhaps because he sees it, as I do, an irrelevance that is being used to deflect from the important matters.

Anybody that votes for or against an MEP or MP based on that bit of information I think needs their head testing.

The LGBT community have what they wanted on the basis that it really didn't affect anybody personaly outside of their community as they kept ramming down our throats. We were all convinced by them it wouldn't be the thin end of a wedge and once done they would they be happy.

So please fk off now as we are not interested.

Edited to add not you personally Zod, the handwringing brigade.

Edited by MOTORVATOR on Wednesday 23 April 16:33

[Zod]

Like Farage, you are simply trying to evade the question. It is not possible to not have a view on the subject: either you are in favour (it doesn't matter whether you don't care or you care passionately); or you are against

[FiF]

Is that question aimed at me?

[Zod]

FiF said:

Is that question aimed at me?

No, MOTORVATOR.

[einsign]

Zod said:

Like Farage, you are simply trying to evade the question. It is not possible to not have a view on the subject: either you are in favour (it doesn't matter whether you don't care or you care passionately); or you are against

What if you couldnt give a sh¦t, is that an option?

[longblackcoat]

einsign said:

Zod said:

Like Farage, you are simply trying to evade the question. It is not possible to not have a view on the subject: either you are in favour (it doesn't matter whether you don't care or you care passionately); or you are against

What if you couldnt give a sh¦t, is that an option?

Yep, a perfectly sensible opinion, and one that is shared by many.

The only reason gay marriage has come up in this debate was that one poster claimed that UKIP was more liberal than the three main parties. I think their attitude to this shows that not to be the case.

The reality is that most people really don't care one way or the other, but there's a rump of older, more conservative voters that care passionately. And they're part of the population that UKIP are trying to court, hence why Farage has been so shifty on the subject.

[NoNeed]

Zod said:

Like Farage, you are simply trying to evade the question. It is not possible to not have a view on the subject: either you are in favour (it doesn't matter whether you don't care or you care passionately); or you are against

Farage does not evade the question, he has a sound reason that he feels that the religious will be forced to conduct ceremonies they are opposed to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjVj3Xr6cVI

[Zod]

NoNeed said:

Zod said:

Like Farage, you are simply trying to evade the question. It is not possible to not have a view on the subject: either you are in favour (it doesn't matter whether you don't care or you care passionately); or you are against

Farage does not evade the question, he has a sound reason that he feels that the religious will be forced to conduct ceremonies they are opposed to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjVj3Xr6cVI

I dealt with that in the first post. That is an evasion of the question. If he achieves his stated desire of our exiting the EU (thus removing this excuse), would he support or oppose gay marriage?

[Zod]

longblackcoat said:

einsign said:

Zod said:

Like Farage, you are simply trying to evade the question. It is not possible to not have a view on the subject: either you are in favour (it doesn't matter whether you don't care or you care passionately); or you are against

What if you couldnt give a sh¦t, is that an option?

Yep, a perfectly sensible opinion, and one that is shared by many.

The only reason gay marriage has come up in this debate was that one poster claimed that UKIP was more liberal than the three main parties. I think their attitude to this shows that not to be the case.

The reality is that most people really don't care one way or the other, but there's a rump of older, more conservative voters that care passionately. And they're part of the population that UKIP are trying to court, hence why Farage has been so shifty on the subject.

Not giving a st is the same as supporting gay marriage - if you don't give a st,m then you ahve no reason to oppose it.

[MOTORVATOR]

Zod, there is nothing to support or oppose. It has gone through end of story.

It's like me asking his opinion on the old slave trade.

The majority really couldn't give a stuff and are looking to the future. On the other hand there are those that seems to feel that we need to continually debate something that has already been decided. Did you lot not get enough mileage out of it?

[NoNeed]

Zod said:

NoNeed said:

Zod said:

Like Farage, you are simply trying to evade the question. It is not possible to not have a view on the subject: either you are in favour (it doesn't matter whether you don't care or you care passionately); or you are against

Farage does not evade the question, he has a sound reason that he feels that the religious will be forced to conduct ceremonies they are opposed to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjVj3Xr6cVI

I dealt with that in the first post. That is an evasion of the question. If he achieves his stated desire of our exiting the EU (thus removing this excuse), would he support or oppose gay marriage?

Who would care? if we were out of the EU you wouldn't be hearing anymore from farage.


Actually he would still be opposed as the European court of human rights is a separate entity to the European union and would almost certainly continue to exist.

[marcosgt]

True... Him and his tinpot party are a one-trick pony, but this does smack of a non-story (and desperate Tory press deflection, given the recent fiddling their favourites were, once again, exposed for).

If it's really an Allowance, every MEP takes it - A bit like taking your car allowance at work, why the hell wouldn't you?

M

[NoNeed]

marcosgt said:

True... Him and his tinpot party are a one-trick pony, but this does smack of a non-story (and desperate Tory press deflection, given the recent fiddling their favourites were, once again, exposed for).

If it's really an Allowance, every MEP takes it - A bit like taking your car allowance at work, why the hell wouldn't you?

M

Stop talking common sense, this isn't the thread for that!!

[mybrainhurts]

Zod said:

NicD said:

in your child like view perhaps.

his 'theme' is sensible immigration and straight talking

what is wrong with you idiot haters?

Calm down, you silly little man.

My turn...

Zod off, you silly little man.

Am I doing this right?

[mrpurple]

Zod said:

mrpurple said:

Nige does have the look of Russell Crowe about him

"The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the Senate, it's the sand of the Colosseum. He'll bring them death and they will love him for it." -Gracchus, on Maximus

Senator Gracchus supports what Maximus is doing in the gladiatorial arena. His quote shows a critical truth about many societies: the true representatives are not the politicians or other elite, but the peasants who compose the majority of the population. If Maximus could manage to sway the opinions of the people through his actions and charisma in the arena, they would provide a powerful collective force for the Roman army to contend with if necessary.

http://voices.yahoo.com/gladiator-quotes-why-movie...

Were you the comedian who compared Farage with Churchill the other day?

No sorry

[Ozzie Osmond]

marcosgt said:

A bit like taking your car allowance at work, why the hell wouldn't you?

Well, if you're the boss of the company and everybody knows you haven't got a car but cycle everywhere it doesn't exactly set a shining example to the rank and file. Fill yer pockets lads.

[NicD]

Ozzie Osmond said:

marcosgt said:

A bit like taking your car allowance at work, why the hell wouldn't you?

Well, if you're the boss of the company and everybody knows you haven't got a car but cycle everywhere it doesn't exactly set a shining example to the rank and file. Fill yer pockets lads.

???????

I don't get it. no car, cycle, what?

[hidetheelephants]

Ozzie Osmond said:

marcosgt said:

A bit like taking your car allowance at work, why the hell wouldn't you?

Well, if you're the boss of the company and everybody knows you haven't got a car but cycle everywhere it doesn't exactly set a shining example to the rank and file. Fill yer pockets lads.

He 'accepts' an automatically paid office allowance and has stated he spends it on running an office; which part of it don't you like? The part where he doesn't have to provide receipts or account for where/how he spent it? It stinks, but he's the only one who bothers to make any fuss about it; the mainstream parties are quite sanguine with it apparently.