Saint Nigel with his nose in the trough
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10 Pence Short said:
No! Anyone with a political party has to run it.
What actual actions have UKIP actually done, to demonstrate their commitment to what they say they want?
What. Have. They. Done?
Well, if they get into power I suspect they would hold a referendum.What actual actions have UKIP actually done, to demonstrate their commitment to what they say they want?
What. Have. They. Done?
What exactly do you think they can do in their current position?
Jasandjules said:
10 Pence Short said:
No! Anyone with a political party has to run it.
What actual actions have UKIP actually done, to demonstrate their commitment to what they say they want?
What. Have. They. Done?
Well, if they get into power I suspect they would hold a referendum.What actual actions have UKIP actually done, to demonstrate their commitment to what they say they want?
What. Have. They. Done?
What exactly do you think they can do in their current position?
10 Pence Short said:
They're interchangeable reactions to any negative story regards UKIP.
Farage could be found on live TV with a dead priest on his dick and 24 box files full of child porn and proof of tax evasion and it would all be some kind of non story / establishment conspiracy against him.
I'm not a UKIP supporter and have no intention of voting for them. I sympathise with their position on the EU and welcome the fact that they might well force a referendum. With that in mind even I think your posts on the subject are increasingly pathetic. Get a grip man, you're coming across as a frothy mentalist yourself.Farage could be found on live TV with a dead priest on his dick and 24 box files full of child porn and proof of tax evasion and it would all be some kind of non story / establishment conspiracy against him.
Jasandjules said:
Well, if they get into power I suspect they would hold a referendum.
What exactly do you think they can do in their current position?
An example? Here's a couple for a start; attend as many EU votes and parliamentary sessions as possible. Vote at these events. Refuse to accept any more expenses or allowances than they expressly need. Provide clear and itemised details of every penny they spend using EU-given money.What exactly do you think they can do in their current position?
Do they do any of this? Of course not.
Do they talk a lot about it? Of course.
Have they DONEanything? Nope.
10 Pence Short said:
An example? Here's a couple for a start; attend as many EU votes and parliamentary sessions as possible. Vote at these events. Refuse to accept any more expenses or allowances than they expressly need. Provide clear and itemised details of every penny they spend using EU-given money.
Do they do any of this? Of course not.
Do they talk a lot about it? Of course.
Have they DONEanything? Nope.
Do they have to itemise absolutely everything or can they use their time more productively? Do you analyse your annual fruit and veg spend on a Sunday afternoon or do you do the garden?Do they do any of this? Of course not.
Do they talk a lot about it? Of course.
Have they DONEanything? Nope.
They have done enough to get up the noses of the establishment (and yours). They have forced the EU debate. They look like they're in with a good shot of winning the EU elections and possibly forcing an EU referendum because they have already influenced main party politics. And 3 threads on the first page of PH NP&E are UKIP related, one of them is a continuation of a previous one that was too long for the PH hamsters.
loose cannon said:
Surprised nobody has mentioned clegg
Spending £110,000 of our money on Ryan Coetzee as his election strategist lol has been value for money so far has it ?
I like to see how Cleggy fares when he is no longer part of the coalition. Not a fan of UKIP but I don't believe any of these stories - seems they have been made up to smear him. Pretty desperate and I couldn't care what he spends his piddly allowance on. The real piggies are the career politico in the starta below. As we've seen in recent weeks.Spending £110,000 of our money on Ryan Coetzee as his election strategist lol has been value for money so far has it ?
10 Pence Short said:
An example? Here's a couple for a start; attend as many EU votes and parliamentary sessions as possible. Vote at these events. Refuse to accept any more expenses or allowances than they expressly need. Provide clear and itemised details of every penny they spend using EU-given money.
Do they do any of this? Of course not.
Do they talk a lot about it? Of course.
Have they DONEanything? Nope.
How does that aid and facilitate a referendum on the EU and ultimately, the UK leaving the UK?Do they do any of this? Of course not.
Do they talk a lot about it? Of course.
Have they DONEanything? Nope.
10 Pence Short said:
An example? Here's a couple for a start; attend as many EU votes and parliamentary sessions as possible. Vote at these events. Refuse to accept any more expenses or allowances than they expressly need. Provide clear and itemised details of every penny they spend using EU-given money.
Do they do any of this? Of course not.
Do they talk a lot about it? Of course.
Have they DONEanything? Nope.
How exactly does that further the cause of getting out of the EU?Do they do any of this? Of course not.
Do they talk a lot about it? Of course.
Have they DONEanything? Nope.
10 Pence Short said:
All you have to do is post up what actions UKIP have undertaken in support of their rhetoric. That's all I'm asking.
Anything?
you do understand that the EU parliment is nothing like the UK one, in that it cannot instigate legislation or the like?Anything?
so, as an MEP, all they can do is vote on stuff put in-front of them, and so far as I can see, they (as in UKIP) have been doing so in a pretty consistent (to their political message) way.
in this context, what exactly do you think he should have done over and above what he has already done?
10 Pence Short said:
Still nothing.
The UKIP supporters cannot name one single thing UKIP have done over and above rhetoric in support of their purported aims. Not one thing.
Can you name one things, ONE THING, that Ed Milliband and Labour have done since losing the last election in support of their purported claims? Or the Greens? Or the Tories, Liberals & Labour in Scotland? Or any party anywhere who don't currently govern?The UKIP supporters cannot name one single thing UKIP have done over and above rhetoric in support of their purported aims. Not one thing.
10 Pence Short said:
Scuffers said:
you do understand that the EU parliment is nothing like the UK one, in that it cannot instigate legislation or the like?
Is that the official UKIP line?nothing party political about it, just basically stating how EU parliament works (or doesn't)
Scuffers said:
10 Pence Short said:
Scuffers said:
you do understand that the EU parliment is nothing like the UK one, in that it cannot instigate legislation or the like?
Is that the official UKIP line?nothing party political about it, just basically stating how EU parliament works (or doesn't)
Are you saying he is wrong?
Just listening to the same old lies and drone is enough to make me vote ukip
Let alone there sensible take on Europe, tell us something that cameron hasnt lied u turned or conveniently forgot about . Same old same old if ukip don't turn out to be what they say then we can vote with our feet just like we will be doing with the usual lot this election !
Let alone there sensible take on Europe, tell us something that cameron hasnt lied u turned or conveniently forgot about . Same old same old if ukip don't turn out to be what they say then we can vote with our feet just like we will be doing with the usual lot this election !
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