HMRC to sell your info

[OzzyR1]

pork911 said:

Will it be 'anonymised' by just having your dob and postcode?

Of course, in addition to your NI number, records of everything you've ever earned (via HMRC) and every place you've worked.

But it's OK, they haven't included your name, so its "anonymous".


Bunch of cts.

[santona1937]

on second thoughts Perhaps it is a good idea
especially if it is not anonymous

I quite like the Finnish thing.
every one who earns over 20K a year should have their tax/ income details published. Be good for social cohesion.
Gonna add that to my manifesto

[RedAlfa]

It's yet another way for the public sector to monetize their records! The Edited Electoral Register is available for purchase, and everybody is opted IN by default! This information is available on websites such as 192.com and peopletracer.co.uk ... the good news is that you can opt out, and have your details removed from those websites separately!

[mikebradford]

if they are going to publish or make available your earnings data

i think their should be balance, and everyone on benefits should have the amounts they are paid made public info.
will be a few people grassing neighbours up for working on the side etc!
regardless, i think as its public money and they are accepting benefits, that this data should be public
may shame a few into getting of their arses and contributing

and those genuinely in need, well im sure they wont have any issue

[turbobloke]

santona1937 said:

Be good for social cohesion.

Reasoning by assertion strikes again.

[eldar]

turbobloke said:

Reasoning by assertion strikes again.

Bloody good idea, the sooner the better. As an active criminal, I'll be able to become much more productive by being able to avoid the outwardly rich but poor and targeting the ones that can really afford my attentions....

[turbobloke]

eldar said:

turbobloke said:

Reasoning by assertion strikes again.

Bloody good idea, the sooner the better. As an active criminal, I'll be able to become much more productive by being able to avoid the outwardly rich but poor and targeting the ones that can really afford my attentions....

GPWM

[santona1937]

eldar said:

Bloody good idea, the sooner the better. As an active criminal, I'll be able to become much more productive by being able to avoid the outwardly rich but poor and targeting the ones that can really afford my attentions....

exactly

[turbobloke]

santona1937 said:

eldar said:

Bloody good idea, the sooner the better. As an active criminal, I'll be able to become much more productive by being able to avoid the outwardly rich but poor and targeting the ones that can really afford my attentions....

exactly

Which, depending on how the smiley is decoded, looks suspiciously like condoning robbery and burglary. Presumably it wasn't that.

[Murph7355]

santona1937 said:

on second thoughts Perhaps it is a good idea
especially if it is not anonymous

I quite like the Finnish thing.
every one who earns over 20K a year should have their tax/ income details published. Be good for social cohesion.
Gonna add that to my manifesto

I'd be up for this.

As long as it was accompanied by full disclosure of what everyone in receipt of benefits spends their money on...

[V8 Fettler]

The Finns are a weird lot, once described to me as Germanic with a touch of autism.

[corozin]

Let's not forget this is the same HMRC that in 2009 extracted the tax information of 23 million taxpayers and put them - unencrypted - onto 2x DVDs before losing them in the post.

I can't believe that they are so stupid as to seriously propose this. The media will slaughter it, the politicians will disown it in the face of public anger, and I can't help thinking it will be the subject of legal challenge too.

[Rovinghawk]

corozin said:

I can't believe that they are so stupid as to seriously propose this.

I can.

[Jasandjules]

Rovinghawk said:

I can.

Going further, I can imagine them going through with it. And then just putting everything in unredacted format.....

[voyds9]

Their present data policy only allows then to 'give' the information away. So they will have to change that first.

But the idea of me being legally required to give tax information to the HMRC who then can sell it to someone else is crazy.

[heppers75]

voyds9 said:

Their present data policy only allows then to 'give' the information away. So they will have to change that first.

But the idea of me being legally required to give tax information to the HMRC who then can sell it to someone else is crazy.

^^ This

A larger part of the problem is I think that we the working populace are just increasingly seen as a cash cow to which there are seemingly no end of ways to extort.

The really annoying thing as that for each hair brained idea that is dreamt up there are just enough apologists or screaming for "justice" or "fairness" or equality" or other some such rabble who will support each rousing concept that it stands an all too real chance of making it through. So for instance this one will of course get the support of those that bleat on about "fairness" and "equality" and who will in united indignation say that they should know this so they can be sure things are "fair"!

In the meanwhile our betters (cough) who rule with such pure and benign intentions are continually laughing all the way to the bank. Actually in many ways they are being very clever and doing a bang up job of supporting themselves and keeping themselves in power and money.

[carinaman]

On Inside Health on Radio 4 a few months ago, they were discussing NHS England's Care.Data scheme where they supply our anonymised medical histories for the greater good, and not greed.

I know that they have to stage these discussions, or arguments, where you have one for and one against, but the proponent of Care.Data seemed to be saying 'You get all this health care for free on the NHS, it's only fair we're allowed to use your data..', it sounded like it was some sort of transactional trade.

The Treasury has seen how inflated the FaceBork valuation has got on the back of having copious amounts of trivial information on FaceBork users and want's a piece of that cake.

Saying that, I had major surgery years ago and got a follow up form asking how I'd turned out. I wasn't aware those that stamped on the Baby P whistle blower at GOSH were idolised during the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony. It was good to know given the letter I got from No. 10 about Maria Miller mentions how she managed the Olympics 'legacy' and sensitively dealt with the Leveson Inquiry.

How about those that we elect to represent us get their own houses in order before approaching us with schemes like this and Care.Data?

[turbobloke]

All this health care for free - who were they trying to kid?

No cost at the point of use (sometimes) isn't free.

[Piersman2]

It will be interesting to see if the MPs earnings are exempted from the data. I'll take a punt right now and say that it will be!

I worked in a large multinational company a few years ago where we were using personnel data including wages in our project. Strangely, we were allowed to use un-anonimysed data for some of the activities... so long as the data for the top grades was removed entirely.

Remember, everyone's equal... some more than others!