HMRC to sell your info
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As in todays paper
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bor...
and Link this to
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pri...
all = BB
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bor...
and Link this to
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pri...
all = BB
another slightly misleading thread title, wouldn't be PPE otherwise, I guess
'The personal financial data of millions of taxpayers could be sold to private firms under laws being drawn up by HM Revenue & Customs in a move branded "dangerous" by tax professionals and "borderline insane" by a senior Conservative MP.
Despite fears that it could jeopardise the principle of taxpayer confidentiality, the legislation would allow HMRC to release anonymised tax data to third parties including companies, researchers and public bodies where there is a public benefit. According to HMRC documents, officials are examining "charging options".
The government insists that there will be suitable safeguards on personal data. But the plans, being overseen by the Treasury minister David Gauke, are likely to provoke serious worries among privacy campaigners and MPs in the wake of public concern about the government's Care.data scheme – a plan to share "anonymised" medical records with third parties.'
Frankly, and I know I will stir a hornets nest by saying this, I think taxable income (including from corporates) should be public record so we could sniff out the cheats and evaders. Make it a criminal offence to use the information for marketing purposes.
After all, if someone wants to rob a rich mark, they only have to look at what they drive or where they live.
'The personal financial data of millions of taxpayers could be sold to private firms under laws being drawn up by HM Revenue & Customs in a move branded "dangerous" by tax professionals and "borderline insane" by a senior Conservative MP.
Despite fears that it could jeopardise the principle of taxpayer confidentiality, the legislation would allow HMRC to release anonymised tax data to third parties including companies, researchers and public bodies where there is a public benefit. According to HMRC documents, officials are examining "charging options".
The government insists that there will be suitable safeguards on personal data. But the plans, being overseen by the Treasury minister David Gauke, are likely to provoke serious worries among privacy campaigners and MPs in the wake of public concern about the government's Care.data scheme – a plan to share "anonymised" medical records with third parties.'
Frankly, and I know I will stir a hornets nest by saying this, I think taxable income (including from corporates) should be public record so we could sniff out the cheats and evaders. Make it a criminal offence to use the information for marketing purposes.
After all, if someone wants to rob a rich mark, they only have to look at what they drive or where they live.
Centurion07 said:
"HMRC would only share data where this would generate clear public benefits"
What do you suppose those would be then, since the info is being passed to private companies?
Company pays money - this benefits public.What do you suppose those would be then, since the info is being passed to private companies?
Scares the s**t out of me this Govt, looking to sell anything and everything about us that is only given to them because we legally have to.
Centurion07 said:
"HMRC would only share data where this would generate clear public benefits"
What do you suppose those would be then, since the info is being passed to private companies?
Exactly.What do you suppose those would be then, since the info is being passed to private companies?
And how much faith do we place in the HMRC being able to anonymise data properly? The Civil Service/Govt don't exactly have a glowing record with respect to technology.
NicD said:
Frankly, and I know I will stir a hornets nest by saying this, I think taxable income (including from corporates) should be public record so we could sniff out the cheats and evaders. Make it a criminal offence to use the information for marketing purposes.
After all, if someone wants to rob a rich mark, they only have to look at what they drive or where they live.
Might be a tad embarrassing for some.......After all, if someone wants to rob a rich mark, they only have to look at what they drive or where they live.
Ozzie Osmond said:
Murph7355 said:
And how much faith do we place in the HMRC being able to anonymise data properly? The Civil Service/Govt don't exactly have a glowing record with respect to technology.
^^^ This.Also, how long would it be before not-anonymised-yet taxpayer data will be found on several disks left in the buffet car of the 0830 from Waterloo.
NicD said:
Frankly, and I know I will stir a hornets nest by saying this, I think taxable income (including from corporates) should be public record so we could sniff out the cheats and evaders. Make it a criminal offence to use the information for marketing purposes.
Finland (for one) has 'tax transparency'. Anyone can look at anyone else's tax records, albeit on paper at a tax office, not electronically on a database. If a person has earned more than Euro150,000 then their details can easily be found on the web, published on the main newspaper sites.bigandclever said:
NicD said:
Frankly, and I know I will stir a hornets nest by saying this, I think taxable income (including from corporates) should be public record so we could sniff out the cheats and evaders. Make it a criminal offence to use the information for marketing purposes.
Finland (for one) has 'tax transparency'. Anyone can look at anyone else's tax records, albeit on paper at a tax office, not electronically on a database. If a person has earned more than Euro150,000 then their details can easily be found on the web, published on the main newspaper sites.In terms of private sector jobs, paid for with private money, the clue as to how to proceed here is in the word 'private' as opposed to the word 'public' in the earlier case. HMRC already have draconian powers, a wider busybody charter going beyond the public sector would do nothing except placate busybodies, who need metaphorically slapping not encouraging.
Ozzie Osmond said:
Murph7355 said:
And how much faith do we place in the HMRC being able to anonymise data properly? The Civil Service/Govt don't exactly have a glowing record with respect to technology.
^^^ This.Countdown said:
NicD said:
Frankly, and I know I will stir a hornets nest by saying this, I think taxable income (including from corporates) should be public record so we could sniff out the cheats and evaders. Make it a criminal offence to use the information for marketing purposes.
After all, if someone wants to rob a rich mark, they only have to look at what they drive or where they live.
Might be a tad embarrassing for some.......After all, if someone wants to rob a rich mark, they only have to look at what they drive or where they live.
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santona1937 said:
Countdown said:
NicD said:
Frankly, and I know I will stir a hornets nest by saying this, I think taxable income (including from corporates) should be public record so we could sniff out the cheats and evaders. Make it a criminal offence to use the information for marketing purposes.
After all, if someone wants to rob a rich mark, they only have to look at what they drive or where they live.
Might be a tad embarrassing for some.......After all, if someone wants to rob a rich mark, they only have to look at what they drive or where they live.
..
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