So UKIP win the Euro Election.....

So UKIP win the Euro Election.....

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Four Litre

Original Poster:

2,017 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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.....what actual difference does it make. Apart from maybe upping the ante in Brussels, what else will change overnight, or in the foreseeable future whilst Dave and the other guy are at the controls ??

steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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ATG

20,549 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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It'll make no difference at all. And that ought to give people some insight into how little impact the EU parliament has and the penny might then drop that EU membership itself isn't a very big deal either and that a party that predicates its existence on opposing something that isn't very important is in fact a waste of a vote. I can dream. In reality Dave and Co. will make some more embarrassingly nationalistic pronouncements in an attempt to woo the Little Englanders.

phil-sti

2,678 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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He wants to pull Britain out of Europe but wants to get elected to it, seem a bit hypocritical?

AJS-

15,366 posts

236 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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I don't think anything will change overnight. When does it ever?

In the run up to the next election though, I think it will make them far harder to ignore. If Cameron keeps refusing to engage Farage in a debate he will look weak. However if he offers a pact tied to the referendum then Farage has a tough choice to make - collaborate with the Tories to get an in/out referendum or carry on as a full political party.

The part I'm more curious about at this stage is how Labour do. If Labour come out on top then the Tories really have to look at a deal with UKIP. If they also have a disappointing result then the Tories have a bit of breathing space, and Labour might feel more pressure to promise a referendum, especially if UKIP are taking votes from Labour as they have made a concerted effort to do.

All that said it's a totally different election with a totally different voting system and a much smaller turn out, generally looking at different things, so there's a viable argument that it shouldn't really have any impact on Westminster politics at all. I guess some of that depends on the nerves of the leaders of the main parties.


(And setting the tone for much political discussion in the next few years, the Lib Dems don't get a mention.)

Jasandjules

69,867 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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phil-sti said:
He wants to pull Britain out of Europe but wants to get elected to it, seem a bit hypocritical?
Nope, getting elected to show just what a load of s***e happens in the EU.... Then use that back in the UK to try to get us to leave the EU.

PRTVR

7,092 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Jasandjules said:
phil-sti said:
He wants to pull Britain out of Europe but wants to get elected to it, seem a bit hypocritical?
Nope, getting elected to show just what a load of s***e happens in the EU.... Then use that back in the UK to try to get us to leave the EU.
And the best bit is getting the EU to pay for it.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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[quote=AJS-]I don't think anything will change overnight. When does it ever?

The part I'm more curious about at this stage is how Labour do. If Labour come out on top then the Tories really have to look at a deal with UKIP. If they also have a disappointing result then the Tories have a bit of breathing space, and Labour might feel more pressure to promise a referendum, especially if UKIP are taking votes from Labour as they have made a concerted effort to do.
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With the representation that the Labour party has in Scotland it might be useful to consider their position if the Independence vote is a 'Yes'. They could be wiped out in the rest of the UK and so irrelevant when it comes to a General Election.

TTwiggy

11,536 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Please - not another Ukip thread. Guam's cat memes are already pulling double shifts.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

243 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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TTwiggy said:
Please - not another Ukip thread. Guam's cat memes are already pulling double shifts.
This. We don't need another thread for every event and possible event.

pork911

7,125 posts

183 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Nigel will be even more insufferable (regardless of the election).

Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Who was talking about UKIP? Certainly not me. Whatever you think about that you can't ignore the effect on the others when considering the future. Wind your neck in, please.

Crafty_

13,277 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Jasandjules said:
Nope, getting elected to show just what a load of s***e happens in the EU.... Then use that back in the UK to try to get us to leave the EU.
Meanwhile he'll be able to do nothing about any of it, so will continue collecting his wage (from the EU) and paying his wife one too.

Nice little earner.


Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Crafty_ said:
Jasandjules said:
Nope, getting elected to show just what a load of s***e happens in the EU.... Then use that back in the UK to try to get us to leave the EU.
Meanwhile he'll be able to do nothing about any of it, so will continue collecting his wage (from the EU) and paying his wife one too.

Nice little earner.
actually, no, please do try and keep up!

eldar

21,711 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Mr_B said:
This. We don't need another thread for every event and possible event.
We can do without that sort of post.

Crafty_

13,277 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Scuffers said:
actually, no, please do try and keep up!
actually, yes. She is on his payroll: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/1078...

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Crafty_ said:
Scuffers said:
actually, no, please do try and keep up!
actually, yes. She is on his payroll: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/1078...
Is, but won't be after the election...

Like i said, please keep up.

Crafty_

13,277 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Scuffers said:
Is, but won't be after the election...

Like i said, please keep up.
rolleyes

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Crafty_ said:
Meanwhile he'll be able to do nothing about any of it, so will continue collecting his wage (from the EU) and paying his wife one too.

Nice little earner.
Can you not read your own posts...?

Crafty_

13,277 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I've read nor seen anything that says he's dismissing her after the elections.