Daily Mail panic over Russian bombers.

Daily Mail panic over Russian bombers.

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colonel c

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7,888 posts

238 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Daily Mail Headline.

DM said:
RAF Typhoon scrambled after two Russian planes stray into UK airspace today.
Further down the article the truth emerges.
DM said:
‘There were unidentified aircraft flying near the north of Scotland,’ a Ministry of Defence spokesman said, adding that the RAF had later identified them as Russian.
‘They were flying in international airspace at all times - they didn't go into UK sovereign airspace.’
Phew!




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611419/RA...


anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I noticed that as well. Good old quality reporting from the DM again!

greygoose

8,225 posts

194 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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How did it affect house prices?

Muntu

7,631 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Bloody BBC are at it too!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27130125

"Fighter jets were scrambled after two Russian military aircraft were spotted approaching UK airspace, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has said.

Royal Air Force Typhoon fighter jets took off from RAF Leuchars in St Andrews, Fife, on Wednesday.

The jets were sent to investigate the Russian planes, which are believed to have turned away shortly afterwards.

RAF fighter planes were scrambled to incidents such as this eight times last year, an MOD spokesman said.

The spokesman said the jets were launched to "determine the identity of unknown aircraft" that approached the north of Scotland and "could not be identified by other means".

He said: "The aircraft were subsequently identified as Russian military aircraft. The Russian military aircraft remained in international airspace at all times as they are perfectly entitled to do so."

carinaman

21,224 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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It's all a bit 45 minute warning. The Ukraine. Scottish independence. Climate of Fear. Asian Hornets etc.

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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If they wanted to nuke us... they sure as hell wouldn't be using bombers

Just routine poking, letting us know they are still there

strudel

5,888 posts

226 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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It's like antagonising a pet cat, it's just to keep you both on your toes smile

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Wow, this happens on a monthly basis... the daily wail must be really short on news if they are making a big deal of this!!!

carinaman

21,224 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I don't suppose it was a timely Press Release from the MoD was it?

It makes a change from a Russian Cruiser sailing up the Clyde.

carinaman

21,224 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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strudel said:
It's like antagonising a pet cat, it's just to keep you both on your toes smile
Like your neighbour's cat stting in your garden, it's Bear-ly news.

whoami

13,151 posts

239 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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colonel c said:
Daily Mail Headline.

DM said:
RAF Typhoon scrambled after two Russian planes stray into UK airspace today.
Further down the article the truth emerges.
DM said:
‘There were unidentified aircraft flying near the north of Scotland,’ a Ministry of Defence spokesman said, adding that the RAF had later identified them as Russian.
‘They were flying in international airspace at all times - they didn't go into UK sovereign airspace.’
Phew!




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611419/RA...
And The Telegraph and Sky News, etc.

So what??

carinaman

21,224 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Thanks. Confirmation it's Central Govt. spin.

eharding

13,600 posts

283 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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carinaman said:
Thanks. Confirmation it's Central Govt. spin.
Eh? MOD issues press release stating someone has been making a dreadful racket in the neighbourhood, we sent some pointy go-fast things to find out who it was, turns out it was Boris out for a jolly in his vintage turboprop ghetto-blaster, everyone goes home. How is that spin?

What the papers choose to make of it is their own problem.



carinaman

21,224 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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http://www.flatearthnews.net/

There's no money in newspapers is there? Newspapers are there to make money. Their ability to employ quality journalists is depleted. Where do the writers go? They work in the public sector crafting content to be fed to the media.

45 minute warning? Press regulation? Look at a police website, they'll be a login for mejia types so they can harvest or collect content from there and upload it to their newspaper websites.

eharding

13,600 posts

283 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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carinaman said:
http://www.flatearthnews.net/

There's no money in newspapers is there? Newspapers are there to make money. Their ability to employ quality journalists is depleted. Where do the writers go? They work in the public sector crafting content to be fed to the media.

45 minute warning? Press regulation? Look at a police website, they'll be a login for mejia types so they can harvest or collect content from there and upload it to their newspaper websites.
Ummm...well, thanks for the link to some decidedly broken website - but how exactly was the topic at hand a work of "Central Govt. spin" vs. varying shades of newspaper hack cobblers?

carinaman

21,224 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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OK. smile

It wasn't an anti-MoD dig. I was once offered a job that may have seen me rubbing shoulders with the infamous Pitmansboots of the SP&L lounge and grew up in married quarters.

Central Govt. spin? Well it happens all of the time doesn't it? So what else is going on?

Are the US sending 600 troops to NATO partners to 'Baltic' states due to the trouble in The Ukraine?

The Scottish independence vote? Does it effect that? Was it Salmond saying that since Leuchars closed and we ditched the militarised Comets that we don't have any maritime patrol capability?

Scotland doesn't have an Airforce just as it doesn't have a currency?

General climate of fear? If it happens all of the time why is it deemed newsworthy now? What's changed? What else could be going on that they may want to draw attention away from?

14 minutes past Midnight, I've just learnt Salmond was in England saying it would enrich Northern England and he'll create HSS a high speed train to link Scotland to Northern England. Perhaps reporting the Ruskies getting pesky was a counter to that?

Edited by carinaman on Thursday 24th April 00:16

dandarez

13,246 posts

282 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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anonymous said:
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Chrise, you've forgotten your apology for mentioning the 'Wail'? eek Shock, horror!

Get your Telegraph out for almost identical headline at almost the same time.
Sorry, I apologise for mentioning the 'Pole'.
(telegraph... get it?)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/107...

carinaman

21,224 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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dandarez said:
Chrise, you've forgotten your apology for mentioning the 'Wail'? eek Shock, horror!

Get your Telegraph out for almost identical headline at almost the same time.
Sorry, I apologise for mentioning the 'Pole'.
(telegraph... get it?)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/107...
'Pole'? You're not Clarkson are you? wink

All 'news' outlets running the same story? Odd that. It's not as though they've all been sent it from the same source anything.

carinaman

21,224 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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23 minutes past midnight, HMS Dragon a Type 45 (Destroyer or Frigate) was deployed from Portsmouth last week to shadow a Russian ship coming south from north of Scotland.


eharding

13,600 posts

283 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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carinaman said:
General climate of fear? If it happens all of the time why is it deemed newsworthy now? What's changed? What else could be going on that they may want to draw attention away from?
Back in the good old days, when we were all four minutes away from bucket-loads of instant sunshine, it *did* happen all the time, and no-one got particularly stressed about it.

Then the Soviet Union collapsed, and even if the Russians could have scraped together enough Avtur to send a Bear around the circuit at Fedotovo or anywhere else, the ground crew would have drunk the fuel and the hydraulic fluid as well before sunrise.

Now that they can occasionally manage to get a couple of these ancient wrecks airworthy long enough to make it to the vicinity of Shetland and back, even without the rest of the malarky going on around the Black Sea, it would still be worthy of passing comment.