Rolf Harris - trial starts today

Rolf Harris - trial starts today

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jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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I've got no view on the accuracy of the content in the link below although I am a little less cynical of his guilt (in purely relative terms) than I was a few months ago but some may find this an interesting read

http://www.rolfharrisisinnocent.com/



PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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jonby said:
I've got no view on the accuracy of the content in the link below although I am a little less cynical of his guilt (in purely relative terms) than I was a few months ago but some may find this an interesting read

http://www.rolfharrisisinnocent.com/
Interesting reading.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Brilliant. If only Rolf had that website creator defending him instead of a so-called Barrister and her team.

tescorank

1,996 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Looks like hes out for the weekend then

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39960138

bazza white

3,558 posts

128 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Is it a retrial of previous convictions or new ones. If it's a complete retrial has he been found guilty of anything then.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Further offences.

He has 12 convictions for sexual offences in which he has served a custodial sentence for.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Hopefully justice has been serviced.


I hope he actually was guilty of the first offences and not an innocent man locked up for no real reason.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Hopefully justice has been serviced.


I hope he actually was guilty of the first offences and not an innocent man locked up for no real reason.
I see the whole Lord Janner business has fallen apart - all civil cases have been withdrawn.

Makes you wonder..........

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Ok this one he was innocent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42012064
How in this day and age do people still get locked up for something they havent done?
If the evidence wasnt there, it wasnt there
You shouldnt need to prove your innocence


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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You don't have to - the prosecution has to prove the charge, but in a he said she said case sometimes the wrong person is believed. That is one of the reasons why there are appeal courts.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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saaby93 said:
Ok this one he was innocent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42012064
How in this day and age do people still get locked up for something they havent done?
If the evidence wasnt there, it wasnt there
You shouldnt need to prove your innocence
What evidence is their for any of these historic allegations.

It's all just one persons word against anothers.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
saaby93 said:
Ok this one he was innocent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42012064
How in this day and age do people still get locked up for something they havent done?
If the evidence wasnt there, it wasnt there
You shouldnt need to prove your innocence
What evidence is their for any of these historic allegations.

It's all just one persons word against anothers.
Corroboration, corroboration of the MO from people independent of one another etc.

JagLover

42,416 posts

235 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
What evidence is their for any of these historic allegations.

It's all just one persons word against anothers.
Well, based on the BBC article, in this case there was a witness who claimed Rolf Harris was there (which he denied) but his story was a fabrication. This was known to the police but they did not pass on the information to the defense team.



Gareth79

7,670 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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I couldn't immediately see that the 'witness' gave evidence in court. I wonder if they had claimed to have seen the incident, or just that Harris was at that event?

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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La Liga said:
orroboration, corroboration of the MO from people independent of one another etc.
was there any corroboration?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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saaby93 said:
La Liga said:
Corroboration, corroboration of the MO from people independent of one another etc.
was there any corroboration?
In terms of multiple people making an allegation, yes. I don't know specifics about this case.

Sa Calobra

37,132 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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saaby93 said:
Ok this one he was innocent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42012064
How in this day and age do people still get locked up for something they havent done?
If the evidence wasnt there, it wasnt there
You shouldnt need to prove your innocence
One charge out of 12.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Sa Calobra said:
saaby93 said:
Ok this one he was innocent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42012064
How in this day and age do people still get locked up for something they havent done?
If the evidence wasnt there, it wasnt there
You shouldnt need to prove your innocence
One charge out of 12.
One wrong out of how many is ok?

confused_buyer

6,619 posts

181 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Because of the age of the victim this charge carried a fair chunk of the sentence so is important.

It seems the corroborating witness was a fantasist/liar who claimed to be in the Navy but was in fact a Lorry Driver.

Now if any or all of the Police and Defence Team knew this but sat there happily in court whilst this evidence was given then something really stinks. It is only Harris's lawyers claiming this to be the case at the moment but it needs looking at IMO.