Rolf Harris - trial starts today
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The halo effect in full swing in this thread. Not a criticism, it's natural human behaviour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
La Liga said:
The halo effect in full swing in this thread. Not a criticism, it's natural human behaviour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
I read the link.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
Didn't make much sense to me though!
It's not that well written and needs a bit of work.
Basically, if we like someone we're more likely to believe good things about them and disbelieve bad things about them.
The opposite is true; if we don't like someone we're more likely to believe bad things about them and less likely to believe good things about them.
The same thing applies to brands and companies.
Basically, if we like someone we're more likely to believe good things about them and disbelieve bad things about them.
The opposite is true; if we don't like someone we're more likely to believe bad things about them and less likely to believe good things about them.
The same thing applies to brands and companies.
Moonhawk said:
That's just it. People seem to have this perception that a peado is some shifty eyed, greasy haired, overweight guy in a mack who hangs round kids playgrounds........and is therefore easy to spot. In fact the vast majority will be the seemingly ordinary man or woman on the street (probably with kids of their own).
You could work with one, drink with one in the pub, play squash with one and you'd likely never know.
It's likely that the 'shifty eyed guy who lives down the road who 'everyone knows' is a bit dodgy' is probably the least of your worries.
I worked with a perfectly respectable guy, aside from being a car salesman You could work with one, drink with one in the pub, play squash with one and you'd likely never know.
It's likely that the 'shifty eyed guy who lives down the road who 'everyone knows' is a bit dodgy' is probably the least of your worries.
, who was arrested in a dawn raid on his house for having kiddy porn on his computer.He was married with two little kids and would be the last person you'd suspect.
Strangely didn't do time for it though, but I think that was probably the least of his problems.
Nightmare said:
I met him in 1995 - some girls I shared a house with in Leicester had heard he was coming to do a gig at the Uni and wrote to him to say he was welcome to pop round for tea beforehand - and he did.
He was, I have to say, lovely. He was on his own with the 2 girls for an hr or so before we got back - both of whom were pretty and rather keen on him - and at no point did he act in any way remotely questionably (we joked about it afterwards). He chatted, drew everyone rolferoos and was just a very nice guy.
If he does turn out to be guilty I will be quite sad.
Could you send this to the court? He was, I have to say, lovely. He was on his own with the 2 girls for an hr or so before we got back - both of whom were pretty and rather keen on him - and at no point did he act in any way remotely questionably (we joked about it afterwards). He chatted, drew everyone rolferoos and was just a very nice guy.
If he does turn out to be guilty I will be quite sad.
Edited by Nightmare on Saturday 10th May 12:48
Willy Nilly said:
Nightmare said:
I met him in 1995 - some girls I shared a house with in Leicester had heard he was coming to do a gig at the Uni and wrote to him to say he was welcome to pop round for tea beforehand - and he did.
He was, I have to say, lovely. He was on his own with the 2 girls for an hr or so before we got back - both of whom were pretty and rather keen on him - and at no point did he act in any way remotely questionably (we joked about it afterwards). He chatted, drew everyone rolferoos and was just a very nice guy.
If he does turn out to be guilty I will be quite sad.
Could you send this to the court? He was, I have to say, lovely. He was on his own with the 2 girls for an hr or so before we got back - both of whom were pretty and rather keen on him - and at no point did he act in any way remotely questionably (we joked about it afterwards). He chatted, drew everyone rolferoos and was just a very nice guy.
If he does turn out to be guilty I will be quite sad.
Edited by Nightmare on Saturday 10th May 12:48
looked over some of the details today, you never get a full picture from press reports of course, but to my mind the accounts of anything that happened when she was 13 or whatever seems flaky at best - she was supposedly scared to death of him, yet willingly took holidays with him and his family, never seemed at all distressed about it at the time nor made a record of it in her diary - plus most of the incidences seemed to happen when other people were either in the room and asleep or just a meters away in the next room.
The prosecution is making a lot of noise about the alleged affair they had when she was 18+, and yes it's all very sordid and 'creepy' as he was already an old man by then and known her since she was a child but its not illegal.
The prosecution is making a lot of noise about the alleged affair they had when she was 18+, and yes it's all very sordid and 'creepy' as he was already an old man by then and known her since she was a child but its not illegal.
shakotan said:
P-Jay said:
I'm expecting a not guilty verdict on this one, haven't seen any evidence (not sure any is in the public domain) but I don't see it.
If he does, he'll be lucky.I've heard first-hand stories about RH long before any of this Yewtree/Saville stuff came along.
It's amazing how many people knew all about Jimmy Saville, Freddie Star, DLT, Jim Davidson, Jimmy Tarbuck etc etc etc for yeeeeears, because it was common knowledge.
It's just a crying shame they'd all sworn an oath, on pain of death never to mention it.
bigfoot7 said:
I know i shouldn't, but this made me chuckle on the BBC website:
"She had come downstairs from her sick bed to find Mr Harris polishing a piece of wood under the house. She told the court he started talking to her, asking her how old she was."
From the same article:"She had come downstairs from her sick bed to find Mr Harris polishing a piece of wood under the house. She told the court he started talking to her, asking her how old she was."
"After the alleged abuse the entertainer "just stopped and then he just went and said 'have a look at what I've been doing'", and showed her his polishing work."
Brilliant!
With the single exception that he did not do this to girls under 16, I don't see anything whatsoever wrong with anything he is alleged to have done. How would you like to stand up in court while the fun police and a load of disgruntled old women discuss everyone you ever groped in painstaking detail?
Girls have men/boys hit on them all the time and if they don't know how to say no or clear off out of it when they don't fancy a bit they are pretty sad cases.
This is an outrageous witch hunt. It's shortly going to be illegal to fondle a girls bottom. Think about it. This is a law that is going to be forced on us by do gooders and frustrated old women.
Girls have men/boys hit on them all the time and if they don't know how to say no or clear off out of it when they don't fancy a bit they are pretty sad cases.
This is an outrageous witch hunt. It's shortly going to be illegal to fondle a girls bottom. Think about it. This is a law that is going to be forced on us by do gooders and frustrated old women.
Frik said:
I presume by the "fun police" you mean "the police". It is illegal, it's called sexual assault.
I'm not talking about illegal stuff. If he did that (including I would say 'tongue kissing' 11 year olds having seen this morning's Metro) then he gets whats coming to him, though I still struggle to understand why no action was taken by them or their families earlier. It may have been a different world, but it wasn't that different. I was there. I'm talking about girls of 16 and over, particularly those who have only come forward now.PS I 'tongue kissed' a 15 year old girl when I was 17. Does that make me a criminal? I don't remember her fighting me off mind. Should I be worried about her reporting me to the fuzz, supported by her mum and a load of her mates, saying that she 'froze' that she was too scared to do anything.
Edited by cardigankid on Tuesday 20th May 08:53
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