Rolf Harris - trial starts today

[telecat]

Mermaid said:

HoHoHo said:

Mermaid said:

5 years 9 months

Where on earth did this come from?

Problem with the PH site or are you in a time warp

Ooops incomplete reporting, sorry.

Not entirely accurate either. It's for the Sentence length not a defence appeal.

[mybrainhurts]

Wonder how he's entertaining his fellow campers...

[carinaman]

They're asking him if he can tell what it is yet?

[Langweilig]

Do you think they'll let him play with his didgeridoo while in't nick?

[mybrainhurts]

Reckon they'll be tying his kangaroo down...

[anonymous-user]

I almost cracked a rib laughing at these....

[CooperD]

Will they need another ball and chain for his extra leg??!!

[Morningside]

http://news.sky.com/story/1311396/rolf-harris-to-a...

Hopefully it will backfire and he will get 20 years.

[loafer123]

Morningside said:

http://news.sky.com/story/1311396/rolf-harris-to-a...

Hopefully it will backfire and he will get 20 years.

Or alternatively a decision might be made on legal grounds that the evidence wasn't substantial enough to convict.

We shall have to wait and see.

[Qwert1e]

Morningside said:

Hopefully it will backfire and he will get 20 years.

In your indignant ranting you appear to have overlooked the fact that he's already received what is effectively a life sentence.

I'm only surprised you haven't suggested exhuming such remains of Jimmy Savile as may exist, and putting them on trial.

[Derek Smith]

loafer123 said:

Or alternatively a decision might be made on legal grounds that the evidence wasn't substantial enough to convict.

We shall have to wait and see.

He's appealing against sentence, not conviction, so you won't have to wait that long.

[loafer123]

Derek Smith said:

loafer123 said:

Or alternatively a decision might be made on legal grounds that the evidence wasn't substantial enough to convict.

We shall have to wait and see.

He's appealing against sentence, not conviction, so you won't have to wait that long.

No he isn't - he is appealing against his conviction.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28604456

[tenpenceshort]

Derek Smith said:

He's appealing against sentence, not conviction, so you won't have to wait that long.

That isn't what is being reported, Derek. Both Sky and BBC website reports state he's applying for permission to appeal against conviction.

[Derek Smith]

tenpenceshort said:

That isn't what is being reported, Derek. Both Sky and BBC website reports state he's applying for permission to appeal against conviction.

My apologies.


Checked on The Guardian:

"Rolf Harris, the veteran children's entertainer jailed last month for indecently assaulting a series of women and girls as young as eight, has sought to appeal against his sentence, the Judicial Office has said."

So maybe it is both?

Edited by Derek Smith on Friday 1st August 20:02

[deadslow]

Qwert1e said:

In your indignant ranting you appear to have overlooked the fact that he's already received what is effectively a life sentence.

I'm only surprised you haven't suggested exhuming such remains of Jimmy Savile as may exist, and putting them on trial.

Hi Rolf

[anonymous-user]

deadslow said:

Hi Rolf

What do you mean?

[Welshbeef]

The scumbag Lost prophets lead singer did similar recently - appeal for harsh sentencing rejected term stands.

Rolf would need some new evidence to challenge it simply bleating its not fair is tough luck.


Or maybe as he has plenty of money he realises pushing for appeals etc does no harm to him in increase sentencing terms but what it does do is to get him out side general innate population for periods of time. Is that worth the £ - quite possibly to a nonce if you have the money. I might be way over thinking this scenario but it is an interesting option to consider.

[tenpenceshort]

There doesn't need to be new evidence in order to appeal. We don't know the basis of the application here, either. It may allege that evidence that should have been excluded or included was not, or that the jury was misdirected, or that the judge erred in not allowing an application to stay at some point, or the judge made an irrational decision, and so on.

As for Harris, he'll be left where he is whilst the legal process goes on, so no satellite benefit in appealing beyond trying to get out following a successful appeal.

My hunch is that he won't get permission at the first attempt, though no doubt we'll find out if and when he does.

[Langweilig]

Two things here. 1 - Rolf has an £11 million fortune. 2. According to one of the tabloids, he's been attacked in prison. One or more of the lags spat at him.

Alright, yes I know it's the Daily Wail and I'm very sorry.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2713966/Ro...

Edited by Langweilig on Saturday 2nd August 12:42

[Welshbeef]

Langweilig said:

Two things here. 1 - Rolf has an £11 million fortune. 2. According to one of the tabloids, he's been attacked in prison. One or more of the lags spat at him.

Alright, yes I know it's the Daily Wail and I'm very sorry.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2713966/Ro...

Edited by Langweilig on Saturday 2nd August 12:42

This surprises me - is expect a nonce to get a bit more than attempted spit.

I hope that lost prophets scumbag is getting more physical punishment than a failed spit attempt.