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Looks like I need to change my name to Mr_Bangladeshi and set up shop as some kinda community work group, seems to get stacks of cash pushed your way without even applying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-298955...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-298955...
I was looking into Electoral Fraud and come across this site, has quite good info on what's going on down there in Dodge/y/ City http://trialbyjeory.com
zcacogp said:
^^^^ Wot Chris Sed.
It's desperately non-PC to say so (and I suspect the newfangled Haymarket mods won't like me saying this) but the biggest reason third-world countries are so impoverished and crappy is because the people who live there make them so. We seem to have huge problems with people coming to the UK and bringing their third-world habits with them, and then everyone is surprised that they make things around them impoverished and crappy. Female Genital Mutilation, anyone? Or a bit of gang rape in a northern mining town? Or some good old-fashioned electoral fraud in East London? While 'Political Correctness' and 'Cultural Diversity' and 'Inclusiveness' are the bywords of the age then such behaviour will run rampant and unchecked. I sincerely hope that the current bruhaahaa in Tower Hamlets is persistent enough to get to the bottom of the problem, and tough enough to make sure that change is effected.
Oli.
You can't say bruhaahaa! That sounds vaguely Islamic! Infidel!It's desperately non-PC to say so (and I suspect the newfangled Haymarket mods won't like me saying this) but the biggest reason third-world countries are so impoverished and crappy is because the people who live there make them so. We seem to have huge problems with people coming to the UK and bringing their third-world habits with them, and then everyone is surprised that they make things around them impoverished and crappy. Female Genital Mutilation, anyone? Or a bit of gang rape in a northern mining town? Or some good old-fashioned electoral fraud in East London? While 'Political Correctness' and 'Cultural Diversity' and 'Inclusiveness' are the bywords of the age then such behaviour will run rampant and unchecked. I sincerely hope that the current bruhaahaa in Tower Hamlets is persistent enough to get to the bottom of the problem, and tough enough to make sure that change is effected.
Oli.
Guam said:
Looks like the Govt are going to take direct control of the Borough and put folk in there to bring it under control 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2821411/No...
Thanks. Reading that it would indeed seem to be so. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2821411/No...
Looks like the mayor is being skewered good and proper. I'm not upset to hear it.
Oli.
k in jail. When do right-wing extremist bigots get op-eds in the Guardian? When their name is Luftur Rahman.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/...
This all started in 2009/2010 when certain sections of the Tower Hamlets community organised a petition to trigger a referendum for a change in the status of the borough from one with a leader/cabinet to one with an executive mayor. The problem was that many of the signatures on this petition were fake.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...
One of the reasons Rahman was kicked out of the Labour party was that he signed up fake members in order to win the Labour Mayoral selection.
There were also allegations of fraud (postal voting) made against Rahman and his supporters during the first mayoral elections.
So we had:
1 - an allegedly fraudulent (fake signatures) petition.
2 - an allegedly fraudulent (fake party members)Labour mayoral leadership contest.
3 - an allegedly fraudulent (fake voters) referendum.
4 - an allegedly fraudulent (postal voting) mayoral election.
5 - an allegedly fraudulent re-election.
And now this. If someone had bothered to tackle the instances of fraud described above when they actually happened we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/...
This all started in 2009/2010 when certain sections of the Tower Hamlets community organised a petition to trigger a referendum for a change in the status of the borough from one with a leader/cabinet to one with an executive mayor. The problem was that many of the signatures on this petition were fake.
telegraph said:
Tower Hamlets moved from a conventional leader system to a mayoralty this year as a result of a campaign spearheaded by the IFE.
In secret filming earlier this year, Abu Talha, an IFE activist, told an undercover reporter for The Sunday Telegraph and Channel 4's Dispatches: "The mayor is going to have a lot more control. That's why we need to get someone, one of our brothers, in there. Which we will do."
The law says that if 5 per cent of the electorate petition a council, it must hold a referendum on changing to a mayoral system.
Earlier this year another prominent IFE activist, Abjol Miah, organised such a petition.
A total of 99.3 per cent of the signatures were Asian names, in a borough which is only a third Asian.
Council officers found that almost half were "invalid", with entire pages of names and addresses written in the same handwriting and around 5,000 not even appearing on the electoral register.
IFE = The Islamic Forum of Europe, an extremist organisationIn secret filming earlier this year, Abu Talha, an IFE activist, told an undercover reporter for The Sunday Telegraph and Channel 4's Dispatches: "The mayor is going to have a lot more control. That's why we need to get someone, one of our brothers, in there. Which we will do."
The law says that if 5 per cent of the electorate petition a council, it must hold a referendum on changing to a mayoral system.
Earlier this year another prominent IFE activist, Abjol Miah, organised such a petition.
A total of 99.3 per cent of the signatures were Asian names, in a borough which is only a third Asian.
Council officers found that almost half were "invalid", with entire pages of names and addresses written in the same handwriting and around 5,000 not even appearing on the electoral register.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...
One of the reasons Rahman was kicked out of the Labour party was that he signed up fake members in order to win the Labour Mayoral selection.
There were also allegations of fraud (postal voting) made against Rahman and his supporters during the first mayoral elections.
So we had:
1 - an allegedly fraudulent (fake signatures) petition.
2 - an allegedly fraudulent (fake party members)Labour mayoral leadership contest.
3 - an allegedly fraudulent (fake voters) referendum.
4 - an allegedly fraudulent (postal voting) mayoral election.
5 - an allegedly fraudulent re-election.
And now this. If someone had bothered to tackle the instances of fraud described above when they actually happened we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now.
Edited by BlackLabel on Wednesday 5th November 19:35
130R said:
So shouldn't this guy be in jail ...
Hopefully when the hit squad go in they will find enough evidence to get just that, but I bet the lights are on in the Town Hall late tonight,and the shredders are at full speed! After all,if S Yorks can loose 3 reports on CSE,Im sure TH can "misfile" quite a few papers!
Wonder if the Hit Squad sent in will have the guts to (metaphorically,and perhaps literally) kick down a few doors, saying "Get yer trousers on son,you're nicked"
A piece in today's Telegraph calling into question the vote count in the recent Mayoral election. Andrew Gilligan deserves an award for his relentless pursuit of these (alleged) crooks. He's been at it from the very beginning even when others (mainly the left) tried to shut him up by calling him a racist.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/local-ele...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/local-ele...
Edited by BlackLabel on Sunday 9th November 10:13
BlackLabel said:
A piece in today's Telegraph calling into question the vote count in the recent Mayoral election. Andrew Gilligan deserves an award for his relentless pursuit of these (alleged) crooks. He's been at it from the very beginning even when others (mainly the left) tried to shut him up by calling him a racist.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/local-ele...
Its a disgrace http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/local-ele...
I like the convenience of postal voting but it is becoming clear Labour relaxed the rules in order to secure votes in constituencies such as these. Far to much is being taken on trust in the current electoral system and that trust is being abused.
No more postal voting, except in extreme extenuating circumstances, and no voting without either passport or driving licence would seem to be the way forward.
JagLover said:
Its a disgrace
I like the convenience of postal voting but it is becoming clear Labour relaxed the rules in order to secure votes in constituencies such as these. Far to much is being taken on trust in the current electoral system and that trust is being abused.
Abused is indeed the word here. British Politics was done in a (mainly) trustworthy manner as people respected the electoral system and recognised that it benefited no-one to abuse it. You then get an influx of people from one of the most corrupt nations on earth (Bangladesh, 120/182 on league of corruption, and Somalia, 182/182 on the same league) and allow them to run an election system. Guess what the result is? I like the convenience of postal voting but it is becoming clear Labour relaxed the rules in order to secure votes in constituencies such as these. Far to much is being taken on trust in the current electoral system and that trust is being abused.
JagLover said:
No more postal voting, except in extreme extenuating circumstances, and no voting without either passport or driving licence would seem to be the way forward.
That would be a good start. And ensure that every voter who votes can prove their address, and ensure that where there are more than two people registered per address that the address is visited to ensure that everyone who claims to live there really does. And I'd probably support the use of election ink as well. Oli.
JagLover said:
Its a disgrace
I like the convenience of postal voting but it is becoming clear Labour relaxed the rules in order to secure votes in constituencies such as these. Far to much is being taken on trust in the current electoral system and that trust is being abused.
No more postal voting, except in extreme extenuating circumstances, and no voting without either passport or driving licence would seem to be the way forward.
Quite right - that'll stop all those old people voting (and help Labour) - and of course disenfranchise anyone without a passport or driving licence, neither of which are compulsory. I like the convenience of postal voting but it is becoming clear Labour relaxed the rules in order to secure votes in constituencies such as these. Far to much is being taken on trust in the current electoral system and that trust is being abused.
No more postal voting, except in extreme extenuating circumstances, and no voting without either passport or driving licence would seem to be the way forward.
The cavalry are on their way.
wharf.co.uk said:
Tower Hamlets: Livingstone and Galloway to speak out in support of Mayor Lutfur Rahman
Politicians Ken Livingstone and George Galloway are believed to be heading to east London this week to throw their weight behind under fire Tower Hamlets mayor Lutfur Rahman.
Former London Mayor Livingstone and Galloway, the current Bradford West MP, will headline a host of left-wing speakers at an event titled "Defend Democracy in Tower Hamlets".
Unite's Steve Turner, Christine Shawcroft of Labour NEC and Kate Hudson of Left Unity are among the other name taking part.
Details of the event, planned for Wednesday evening at Mile End Road, have been circulated on social networks.
The note appears to refer to the recent decision by Communities Secretary Eric Pickles to send commissioners into Tower Hamlets Council following the release of the PricewaterhouseCoopers report into the running of the borough. It says its aim is to "Stop the witch-hunt of Mayor Lutfur Rahman".
The meeting has drawn criticism from Mayor Rahman's opponents.
Andy Erlam, part of an Election Petition bringing High Court action against Mayor Rahman for alleged malpractice in last year's mayoral vote, condemned the involvement of the former London Mayor.
He said: "How dare Ken Livingstone come to Tower Hamlets. He knows nothing about the area and it's problems. Lutfur Rahman has to answer for his actions and mobilising the so-called Left is wholly inappropriate."
Mr Livingstone has been long-term supporter of the Tower Hamlets Mayor.
Mayor Rahman is yet to comment on his personal involvement with the meeting or whether he will attend, although he is listed as a speaker in some literature.
The Facebook page advertising the meeting has been hosted by Tower Hamlets' Deputy Mayor Oliur Rahman.
The event will see Galloway's return to the area where he represented Bromley-by-Bow as MP for Respect between 2005 and 2010.
He then came third in the 2010 election when contesting Labour MP Jim Fitzpatrick's seat at Poplar and Limehouse, before being voted in at Bradford West in a by-election in 2012.
http://www.wharf.co.uk/2014/11/tower-hamlets-livingstone-and.htmlPoliticians Ken Livingstone and George Galloway are believed to be heading to east London this week to throw their weight behind under fire Tower Hamlets mayor Lutfur Rahman.
Former London Mayor Livingstone and Galloway, the current Bradford West MP, will headline a host of left-wing speakers at an event titled "Defend Democracy in Tower Hamlets".
Unite's Steve Turner, Christine Shawcroft of Labour NEC and Kate Hudson of Left Unity are among the other name taking part.
Details of the event, planned for Wednesday evening at Mile End Road, have been circulated on social networks.
The note appears to refer to the recent decision by Communities Secretary Eric Pickles to send commissioners into Tower Hamlets Council following the release of the PricewaterhouseCoopers report into the running of the borough. It says its aim is to "Stop the witch-hunt of Mayor Lutfur Rahman".
The meeting has drawn criticism from Mayor Rahman's opponents.
Andy Erlam, part of an Election Petition bringing High Court action against Mayor Rahman for alleged malpractice in last year's mayoral vote, condemned the involvement of the former London Mayor.
He said: "How dare Ken Livingstone come to Tower Hamlets. He knows nothing about the area and it's problems. Lutfur Rahman has to answer for his actions and mobilising the so-called Left is wholly inappropriate."
Mr Livingstone has been long-term supporter of the Tower Hamlets Mayor.
Mayor Rahman is yet to comment on his personal involvement with the meeting or whether he will attend, although he is listed as a speaker in some literature.
The Facebook page advertising the meeting has been hosted by Tower Hamlets' Deputy Mayor Oliur Rahman.
The event will see Galloway's return to the area where he represented Bromley-by-Bow as MP for Respect between 2005 and 2010.
He then came third in the 2010 election when contesting Labour MP Jim Fitzpatrick's seat at Poplar and Limehouse, before being voted in at Bradford West in a by-election in 2012.
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