Edinburgh tram goes live tomorrow!
Discussion
Excellent stuff ninja, however and against all odds I suspect that the Trams will ultimately be a success. The Corstorphine/St Johns Road nightmare could only get worse and consistently makes bus journeys that pass through the area at peak times far too slow.
The money ought to have been spent on upgrading and extending the existing rail network, but ultimately, I wonder whether there would be a capacity limit on existing lines.
The biggest loser from the cancellation of the Airport rail link was the rest of Scotland.
The money ought to have been spent on upgrading and extending the existing rail network, but ultimately, I wonder whether there would be a capacity limit on existing lines.
The biggest loser from the cancellation of the Airport rail link was the rest of Scotland.
pcvdriver said:
Spitfire2 said:
Eh? What's that big station with tramlines at the airport for?????
It's not quite the airport where the tram Depot is.....just a mile or two away at Gogar (it's nearer RBS headquarters than the airport).pcvdriver said:
0a said:
pcvdriver said:
Spitfire2 said:
Eh? What's that big station with tramlines at the airport for?????
It's not quite the airport where the tram Depot is.....just a mile or two away at Gogar (it's nearer RBS headquarters than the airport).I had the misfortune to spend today in the godforsaken s
thole that is our 'capital' city. Trams aside, as we all know that was a waste of money, the road surfaces are atrocious, the parking extortionate when you can find any, and between the bus lanes, tram lines and no right turns it's a wonder anyone goes near the place in a car. It's not exactly the easiest city to navigate at the best of times, but the council have made it impossible.
What Edinburgh needs is a motorway out of it. And I don't mean that to be funny, the M8 is a fking disgrace of a road. The main route between the two major cities is mostly two lanes each way and should have been upgraded instead of a few poxy trams.
Between the trams and the parliament building it's quite clear we can't be trusted to govern ourselves. For the love of god vote naw.
BTW if anyone wants 4hrs of free parking quite close to the centre use the Genting casino place at Fountainpark, just give the wee guy at the desk a bs story and get him to validate your ticket. Worked for me.
thole that is our 'capital' city. Trams aside, as we all know that was a waste of money, the road surfaces are atrocious, the parking extortionate when you can find any, and between the bus lanes, tram lines and no right turns it's a wonder anyone goes near the place in a car. It's not exactly the easiest city to navigate at the best of times, but the council have made it impossible.What Edinburgh needs is a motorway out of it. And I don't mean that to be funny, the M8 is a f
king disgrace of a road. The main route between the two major cities is mostly two lanes each way and should have been upgraded instead of a few poxy trams.Between the trams and the parliament building it's quite clear we can't be trusted to govern ourselves. For the love of god vote naw.
BTW if anyone wants 4hrs of free parking quite close to the centre use the Genting casino place at Fountainpark, just give the wee guy at the desk a bs story and get him to validate your ticket. Worked for me.
I must admit I mostly ignore the no right turn (and left turn) stuff - most of them have no logical purpose beyond trapping the motorist in a frustrating loop away from where you want to go. Having lived in London parking doesn't seem too bad - I tend to head in at the times when on street parking is free.
Spitfire2 said:
Theres a covered walkway. Its easily 1 minute. I'm no fan of the trams but you guys are moaning for the sake of it.
You're right that the tram stops a minute or do under a covered walkway from the terminal building. However, that wasn't in the original plans - it was to stop at the south gyle roundabout. Extending to Gogarburn for RBS and the airport makes a lot more sense.
technodup said:
I had the misfortune to spend today in the godforsaken sthole that is our 'capital' city. Trams aside, as we all know that was a waste of money, the road surfaces are atrocious, the parking extortionate when you can find any, and between the bus lanes, tram lines and no right turns it's a wonder anyone goes near the place in a car. It's not exactly the easiest city to navigate at the best of times, but the council have made it impossible.
I agree about the cost of parking. There's no sense to it either, it's slightly cheaper to park for four hours at the pay and display in King's Stables Road than in the adjacent NCP car park at Castle Terrace. But even that is only slightly more expensive than two off-peak returns on the train.thole that is our 'capital' city. Trams aside, as we all know that was a waste of money, the road surfaces are atrocious, the parking extortionate when you can find any, and between the bus lanes, tram lines and no right turns it's a wonder anyone goes near the place in a car. It's not exactly the easiest city to navigate at the best of times, but the council have made it impossible.From speaking to a few engineers who have worked in and around it, it seems that as noted above the utility diversions were a massive underestimate. Although having dealt with these myself, the stats companies aren't adverse to charging eye watering amounts of money for relatively small diversions. I remember one scheme I was on last year where the national telephone operator quoted 1,5million to move two cabinets (which we managed to design amd argue down to 150k, but that's still a hell of a lot).
lamboman100 said:
Looks like yet another Scottish vanity project.
Aye, we're absolutely sick to the back teeth with all the vanity projects up here, what with the trams and...the trams and...erm, give us a clue here...But yes, you're right, only I'm not sure whose vanity is being assuaged.
Halmyre said:
Aye, we're absolutely sick to the back teeth with all the vanity projects up here, what with the trams and...the trams and...erm, give us a clue here...
I'll give you a few: foot of the Royal Mile, designed by a Spanish (?) guy, went 10x over budget...I didn't know about that land being saved for an M8 extension through Sighthill/Saughton, interesting, thanks whoever that was
it's always nice to remember previous good forward thinking by decision makers.Instead of trams, it would seem you can run Lothian buses for a year on less than £100m. Why didn't we just make buses in Edinburgh free or insanely inexpensive? That's surely going to get people out of their cars.
Edited by simoid on Monday 2nd June 02:07
I got a tram to work this morning as I was dropping my car off at Sighthill.
20 minutes to St Andrews Square. Was really impressed with it, super smooth, quick and only issue I noticed was that it was quite rough around the sharper bends and that cars at the Haymarket/Dalry junction were sitting in the yellow box junction which held up the tram for a couple of minutes.
Think it will be good for Hermison Gait and the Gyle as it seemed quite out of town but now its only 20-25 mins on a tram.
I almost wish I lived on the route so I could use them everyday.
20 minutes to St Andrews Square. Was really impressed with it, super smooth, quick and only issue I noticed was that it was quite rough around the sharper bends and that cars at the Haymarket/Dalry junction were sitting in the yellow box junction which held up the tram for a couple of minutes.
Think it will be good for Hermison Gait and the Gyle as it seemed quite out of town but now its only 20-25 mins on a tram.
I almost wish I lived on the route so I could use them everyday.
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